Author Topic: War on Drugs gone awry in another case  (Read 2599 times)

Offline zuii

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Re: War on Drugs gone awry in another case
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2008, 09:34:18 AM »
un freaking believable.

The ludicrous ravings of the democrat mind.

You are wrong and you know it, otherwise your post would contain some kind of thought behind it other than a personal attack.
 
Men have been getting high since day one.
This "drug war" thing has failed over and over and over and over, it will never work. never has, never will.

Since Prohibition worked soooo well,,,, hmm some people will never learn.

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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: War on Drugs gone awry in another case
« Reply #61 on: September 20, 2008, 11:19:25 AM »
I already told you the "real motivation". And "money" ain't even close.

Chief walks into Narc LTs office, "why are your numbers down"? LT goes, "Ahhh, ahhh, ahhhh". Chief goes, "shaddup I dont want to hear it". "Start making some quality investigations or I'll find someone else to take your take home car home with them.

LT applies manure downhill to the troops, "you lazy mutts aint getting us pinches, seizures, or quality convictions". Get me some or your all be back on the midnight beat car.

College kid gets grabbed with 4 lids, of which she planned to to sell 3 to friends to pay for her own, "probably narced on by some other mid level  :lol informant". Narcs scare crap out of kid, put her on the street to make controlled buy to dangerous felons. Gun is thrown in to get the extra charge, to get more wood on gangstas, so the narcs can eat their way higher up the chain. A gun charge or two thrown in will get a previously convicted felon at least a fiver. Add all that to the trafficking charges and you got real wood on the gangstas. Might make them talk.

And so the kid got thrown out there...................

When I look at this Chiefs face I see guilt and misery written all over it. He knows they were wrong. He knows this was no mid level dealer. He might even have a daughter the same age as his dead informant. And he knows this numbers thing has ruined Law Enforcement. We all do.

I dont believe in second guessing other coppers but someone has to answer for this. Without question someone is going to have to pay for it. You have to weigh everything on this job. Everything and every move. And the possible gain from this buy just wasn't worth cutting the corners and putting this kids life in jeopardy. It just wasnt worth it.
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Offline Hangtime

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Re: War on Drugs gone awry in another case
« Reply #62 on: September 20, 2008, 11:20:22 AM »
Do you have an actual argument that makes sense?  And since when am I a democrat?

How about we do a little excercise.  Let's pretend there is no 2nd Amendment and people are trying to get rid of all the guns in the United States.  What are some reasons it shouldn't be done and won't work?  Put them in a list.

Something tells me there'll be a number of reasons on that list that apply just the same for drugs...

I dunno.. are yah a democrat? Since when did you put on a crockett suit?
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Re: War on Drugs gone awry in another case
« Reply #63 on: September 20, 2008, 11:25:00 AM »
You are wrong and you know it, otherwise your post would contain some kind of thought behind it other than a personal attack.
 
Men have been getting high since day one.
This "drug war" thing has failed over and over and over and over, it will never work. never has, never will.

Since Prohibition worked soooo well,,,, hmm some people will never learn.

tra lala

zuii


You jumping the right guy here? I left that missive for crocket.. about 3 am in the morning. It was the knee jerk reaction to corketts wall of text justifying the war on drugs as necessary because it keeps the government employed.

Hence the 'lunatic ravings of a democrat mind'.
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Offline zuii

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Re: War on Drugs gone awry in another case
« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2008, 11:33:27 AM »
You jumping the right guy here? I left that missive for crocket.. about 3 am in the morning. It was the knee jerk reaction to corketts wall of text justifying the war on drugs as necessary because it keeps the government employed.

Hence the 'lunatic ravings of a democrat mind'.

Hmm, then my apology to you sir, my ADHD seems to have kicked in.
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Re: War on Drugs gone awry in another case
« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2008, 12:07:15 PM »
's ok.. been there, done that, wiped my bum with the t-shirt. ;)

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Offline Thruster

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Re: War on Drugs gone awry in another case
« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2008, 01:53:02 PM »
"I already told you the "real motivation". And "money" ain't even close."

While I'd agree the threat of losing a personal ride is enough to cause far too many leo's to endanger the public the fact is that the only segment of criminal behavior that can turn a profit reliably (for local law enforcement agencies) is the drug trade.

Since the War on Drugs began financial incentives have become a major part of most local agencies budgets. The only way to justify dollars is to make cases. If there's a single reason for the extreme degree of irresponsible conduct exhibited in the most notorious cases, it's money.

Tallahassee's not exactly virgin ground for the drug trade. It can't be the first time they did something like this. Maybe they've been lucky so far and just got lazy. But it's obvious they dropped the ball and it wasn't just one guy's fault.

If it's your take that this is the direct result some butt chewing session, I'd bet that there was a budget meeting that precipitated it.

I just can't understand how they thought this amateur was going to pull off a $13k buy. To the sellers it had to look like a setup.