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Offline ft

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Braking on landing?
« on: October 04, 1999, 07:00:00 PM »
Is there a trick to this that I'm missing?

I put the plane down at the threshold at somewhere around stallspeed x 1.3 (pretty standard), hit the brakes right away and cut the throttle. The rollout still tends to take me halfway into the next sector and in the case of those elevated fields off the edge of a cliff...

Pulling the stick back to use the elevator to counter the nose over tendency and thus allowing those autobalancing brakes to brake harder seems to work, but not much.

Anyone got a "magic solution"? It doesn't feel like those brakes are anywhere near the efficiency I'd demand from the brakes on a plane, yet I don't see anyone else bringing it up. Am I doing something wrong?

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Offline Mark Luper

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Braking on landing?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 1999, 07:06:00 PM »
Ft,
No you are not the only one, but I land clicking, so to speak, with the brakes engaged. I try to land right at stall speed... Some planes, 17 especially, are a little harder to get stopped, to me for some unknown reason, but the fighters generally let me stop about mid runway.

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Braking on landing?
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 1999, 08:09:00 PM »
Dont think many of us are doing too much landing  


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Braking on landing?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 1999, 05:08:00 PM »
I have found all the fighter brakes to be very Sticky, like the second wire on a CV.

Haven't landed a B-17 yet, the lack of defensive gunners has hampered my ability to land that plane.

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Offline -raxx-

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Braking on landing?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 1999, 07:03:00 PM »
Dudes,

I spoke with HiTech about this last week.  At present the braking system has ABS =)  That means your brakes are "sticky" and you don't bounce down the runway if you hold down the spacebar as you land.  It seemed cool at the time to have a Daimler-Benz engine and ABS in my 109 =).  This is bound to change so don't get used to the Anti-skid Braking System.

ABS aside I've found the easiest way to stop is in the setup in your final approach.  If you screw up the approach nothing is gonna save your bellybutton on the ground.  I use full flaps and throttle at about 50%-75% riding the edge of the stall horn down, (so it just blips occasionally).  I drop the gear down at about 500 feet AGL and flare just before touchdown.

I overexaggerate the flare out and pull the throttle back to zero during the flare.  The plane nears departure just prior to the wheels touching down, (the cut off of the thrust causes the plane to nose forward slightly before departing into a spin).  Apply brakes and bleed speed by applying small increments of Up elevator, (dont pull back hard on the stick as this causes the plane to attempt to lift off again at stall speed which WILL get you killed), as well as bounce you dowen the runway.  

Once all three wheels are on the ground and the plane is under the stall horn I hold the stick right back and apply rudder to increase drag.  Applying rudder has to be done carefully to account for the lack of torque, (and other factors that exist when the engine is running and the prop turning).  Also the plane will be trimmed differently for flying and landing.

So far I've only porked one landing in a fighter and rolled off the runway once with a C-47 at a small field.

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Offline Gh0stFT

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Braking on landing?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 1999, 10:38:00 AM »
I brake the Fighter Planes really easy on Runway, except the B17. Landing with full
Flaps near stall speed and full brakes, but the B17 is rolling and rolling. Before i reach the end of the Runway, i use full rudder to right or left, so i stop withing the Airfield Frame. Without this tactic you cant land a B17 on Airfields that are on Mountains, you just run over and fall the other side down

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