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Offline Toad

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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #90 on: September 25, 2008, 10:10:36 AM »
It'll either be "Yes, just give me time to google the answers" or "no" or he'll just continue to ignore you.

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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #91 on: September 25, 2008, 10:27:18 AM »
Not at all, however you seem to think he could, so how about you give it a try as well to answer those 8 simple little questions. You've been pretty vocal in this thread. More along the lines of gun control is a good thing and those of us opposed to the idea of gun control are weak minded and out of touch. So how about impressing us with your knowledge of the subject and answer those questions that I know Obama couldn't answer. Your post you made right after this one shows you don't know what the issues are regarding the 2nd since you started talking about the entire militia thing. Heller vs DC already ended that debate. The 2nd isn't about militias, it's an individual right. My right. Your right. Everyones right to own a firearm, that is unless you've had your rights taken away by being convicted of a crime through due proccess and that's allowed in the Constitution so in those cases I have no problems. The problems come in when the anti gun nuts start trying to legislate new laws to prevent me, a law abiding citizen, from being able to own a firearm without due proccess with regards to the Constitution, and that's what laws like the Assult Weapons Ban, and all the others do. Those strip me of my rights without due proccess and are un Constitutional.

Lets see if you actually know what it is your talking about or if your just spewing the party line like you boy does all the time. Take a shot at those questions.
send him the email with your months pay check
then ask me
It was your statement
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #92 on: September 25, 2008, 10:29:44 AM »
newbie.. yes.. if you had the guts to come and try to take my guns away I would tell you no..  if you tried to do it by force I would use force.. unto death.. to stop you.   You have a strange idea of freedom.. it is classic democracy I guess where no individual rights are sacred so long as you can get enough people to vote to take them away.

The second amedment is part of our bill of rights.   It says nothing about hunting nor does it say that it is there only for guard duty at the border..   It is an individual right and, as the supreme court has said.. it is for us to use to protect ourselves and others. 

If you try to take that right, the ability to defend myself and mine (and others) from me then you are a threat unto death to me.   All means of force are appropriate to stop you and are exactly what the founders felt was the right way to be.

You do not get to vote individual rights away.. that is the whole point of our government.   

But what is most telling is you feeling threatened.. If you tried to take my means of defense then it is you who are the attacker.. leave me alone and you have nothing to worry about..  I am not threat to you until you initiate the attack.

That is the whole  problem with the blue and red state country we live in.. the blue state metrosexuals and taxi riders won't... can't.. leave us alone..

lazs
your boast and failed attempt at bravado
As for guns and what they are to me... you actually know nothing
as for if i wanted to vote differently than what someone with a Stalinist approach to life, because I would be a threat to his freedoms, which would give him the right to end my freedoms.. ya know like Fidel, Hitler, Noriega, kill em if they refuse to see it my way...
Everyone has a right to vote for whoever they want, that is a democratic society, whereas you want to be an isolationist ...  have at it... .. and i don't give a licorice whip crap who or why you vote... i promise not to threaten your life in any way or means.. As for fear.. no.. Intardnet muscles and blowhards do not make me quake in fear.. it is the ignorance of what is actually happening around you that does...
But, If you did kill someone because they wanted to vote differently than you
LOL.. I would bet that "Supreme Court Right" --"If you try to take that right, the ability to defend myself and mine (and others) from me then you are a threat unto death to me.   All means of force are appropriate to stop you and are exactly what the founders felt was the right way to be."
I bet that right in court would go about as far as... The judge and prosecuter asking for a mental competency hearing first before any trial proceedings would go forth... but hey.. I am sure that if you scream loud enough that the Supreme Court said you had the right to kill someone that voted differently from you.. someone would listen and agree... they may be wearing straightjackets too.. but hey.. they at least agree..
But I know you aren't that nuts... .... are you?

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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #93 on: September 25, 2008, 10:41:11 AM »
send him the email with your months pay check
then ask me
It was your statement


Well that answered my question. You think "sensible" gun laws are ok, yet you know nothing about the subject you wish to regulate. Just like Obama.

But one last time, I'll bet YOU Nwbie, that you cannot answer those questions accurately. I'm not e-mailing anything to Obama for his staff to screw up, but I am asking YOU. If I ever get a chance to speak to Obama face to face I'll be sure to lay down that bet though and then take great pleasure in watching him squirm and make a total bellybutton out of himself.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #94 on: September 25, 2008, 10:57:29 AM »
Well that answered my question. You think "sensible" gun laws are ok, yet you know nothing about the subject you wish to regulate. Just like Obama.

But one last time, I'll bet YOU Nwbie, that you cannot answer those questions accurately. I'm not e-mailing anything to Obama for his staff to screw up, but I am asking YOU. If I ever get a chance to speak to Obama face to face I'll be sure to lay down that bet though and then take great pleasure in watching him squirm and make a total bellybutton out of himself.

rofl

No... i refuse to answer your questions.. because you are not a person who holds fast to his word... you back off.. you point in different directions.. you stomp your feet and say -no fair!!!..
If i answered your questions.. i would be accused of having "Googled" the answers... that only you know... that you have the ability to read minds and know what other people know and feel because that is how you feel...  and yes,.. i know... that is what I have been accused of... because some in here think they know what every republican wants..is what they want... it doesn't happen that way
for instance... Wilmette IL... what do you think the majority party affiliation of the towns citizens is?
Take a guess...
Now .. go to your NRA site and Search for articles pertaining to Wilmette IL....
Shocking isn't it?
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #95 on: September 25, 2008, 11:17:25 AM »
My questions are specific to firearms, and anyone who knows firearms will be able to answer those questions with no problems. I'm not stomping my feet and I'm not changing drection.

I'm asking specific questions that I would expect someone who wants to legislate laws concerning gun control to know the answers to.

You may google all you want because google doesn't know the correct answers either.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #96 on: September 25, 2008, 12:33:07 PM »
My questions are specific to firearms, and anyone who knows firearms will be able to answer those questions with no problems. I'm not stomping my feet and I'm not changing drection.

I'm asking specific questions that I would expect someone who wants to legislate laws concerning gun control to know the answers to.

You may google all you want because google doesn't know the correct answers either.

ROFL  - now you know more than google?

What Temple should we all be praying at to make sure we are praying to you - the all encompassing knowledge master?

ROFL.... now i have to clean off my monitor from the coffee stains that spewed out as i laughed...
Your killing me..... rofl

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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #97 on: September 25, 2008, 12:46:30 PM »
ROFL  - now you know more than google?

What Temple should we all be praying at to make sure we are praying to you - the all encompassing knowledge master?

ROFL.... now i have to clean off my monitor from the coffee stains that spewed out as i laughed...
Your killing me..... rofl



Maybe because I was a military certified small arms instructor and am now also certified and liscensed in the state of Virginia to teach small arms basics and conceled carry classes.

Been doing it for over 12 years now as a collateral duty in the military and as a part time gig in civilian life. See it's my job to keep up with all the local, state, and federal firearms laws so I can properly teach my students, and now in the civilian world of teching this subject I have found that I have to be more proficient with a larger variety of weapons since most of my students are coming in with their own equipment to learn on.

There's my background on the subject matter, awaiting your pointless smart alec response. Dazzle me please.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2008, 12:56:07 PM »
Maybe because I was a military certified small arms instructor and am now also certified and liscensed in the state of Virginia to teach small arms basics and conceled carry classes.

Been doing it for over 12 years now as a collateral duty in the military and as a part time gig in civilian life. See it's my job to keep up with all the local, state, and federal firearms laws so I can properly teach my students, and now in the civilian world of teching this subject I have found that I have to be more proficient with a larger variety of weapons since most of my students are coming in with their own equipment to learn on.

There's my background on the subject matter, awaiting your pointless smart alec response. Dazzle me please.

Hey you said you know more than google .... that was dazzling enough

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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #99 on: September 25, 2008, 12:59:11 PM »
I routinely have to correct my students who researched subjects on google and came back with false information. I made that staement based on my experiance and I stand behind it.

Next
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #100 on: September 25, 2008, 02:02:09 PM »
There's my background on the subject matter, awaiting your pointless smart alec response. Dazzle me please.

But Hornet, anyone can be a ninja like Nwbie in this day and age... youtube/google can teach you to do, or be, anything you want....  :aok

In all seriousness it's like all those young kids today who watch UFC religiously - who have never been in a real fight - yet think they can.
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #101 on: September 25, 2008, 04:58:51 PM »
your boast and failed attempt at bravado

As for guns and what they are to me... you actually know nothing

as for if i wanted to vote differently than what someone with a Stalinist approach to life, because I would be a threat to his freedoms, which would give him the right to end my freedoms.. ya know like Fidel, Hitler, Noriega, kill em if they refuse to see it my way...

Everyone has a right to vote for whoever they want, that is a democratic society, whereas you want to be an isolationist ...  have at it... .. and i don't give a licorice whip crap who or why you vote... i promise not to threaten your life in any way or means..

As for fear.. no.. Intardnet muscles and blowhards do not make me quake in fear.. it is the ignorance of what is actually happening around you that does...

But, If you did kill someone because they wanted to vote differently than you
LOL.. I would bet that "Supreme Court Right" --"If you try to take that right, the ability to defend myself and mine (and others) from me then you are a threat unto death to me.   All means of force are appropriate to stop you and are exactly what the founders felt was the right way to be."

I bet that right in court would go about as far as... The judge and prosecuter asking for a mental competency hearing first before any trial proceedings would go forth... but hey.. I am sure that if you scream loud enough that the Supreme Court said you had the right to kill someone that voted differently from you.. someone would listen and agree... they may be wearing straightjackets too.. but hey.. they at least agree..
But I know you aren't that nuts... .... are you?




Quote from Newbie:

as for if i wanted to vote differently than what someone with a Stalinist approach to life, because I would be a threat to his freedoms, which would give him the right to end my freedoms.. ya know like Fidel, Hitler, Noriega, kill em if they refuse to see it my way...


Laz,

This is the crux of how you and Newbie differ ideologicly.

He beleives his freedom to vote, and the outcome of the vote for a law to disarm you without a repeal of the 2nd Amendment superceeds the constitutional protection itself if his vote is part of a majority who agrees disarming gun owners is their "right" by virtue of a democratic majority. He does not beleive the constitution should have the power to be unchangeable without a constitutional convention nor absolute where he wants it to be fluid. He beleives the POWER of his vote if his group wins trumps your rights.

I doubt the Heller outcome was as meanigful to him as his beleif that a voting majority of his local like mined citizens will superceed the ruling in defiance of it.

Newbie if you want to dance on someones grave and point fingers at them in court, you need to be alive to do it. Your above rant creates the scenario that you would be dead and that would be the reason for the court apperence. In that case you would be deceased and whoever shot you would spend life on death row. Not very good nenner nenner logic Newbie. You expose a lack of knowlege to how often the police don't catch people.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #102 on: September 25, 2008, 08:34:42 PM »


Quote from Newbie:

as for if i wanted to vote differently than what someone with a Stalinist approach to life, because I would be a threat to his freedoms, which would give him the right to end my freedoms.. ya know like Fidel, Hitler, Noriega, kill em if they refuse to see it my way...


Laz,

This is the crux of how you and Newbie differ ideologicly.

He beleives his freedom to vote, and the outcome of the vote for a law to disarm you without a repeal of the 2nd Amendment superceeds the constitutional protection itself if his vote is part of a majority who agrees disarming gun owners is their "right" by virtue of a democratic majority. He does not beleive the constitution should have the power to be unchangeable without a constitutional convention nor absolute where he wants it to be fluid. He beleives the POWER of his vote if his group wins trumps your rights.

I doubt the Heller outcome was as meanigful to him as his beleif that a voting majority of his local like mined citizens will superceed the ruling in defiance of it.

Newbie if you want to dance on someones grave and point fingers at them in court, you need to be alive to do it. Your above rant creates the scenario that you would be dead and that would be the reason for the court apperence. In that case you would be deceased and whoever shot you would spend life on death row. Not very good nenner nenner logic Newbie. You expose a lack of knowlege to how often the police don't catch people.
Jeez there is spellcheck with this bbs... unless of course you do not know the actual spelling and / or definition- and are afraid to check it and sit there pondering if that was the word you meant...
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how the H did you get all of that nonsense out of that?
Take some time maybe...type it in a word program, get a coherent thought process going..then cut and paste it
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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #103 on: September 25, 2008, 08:36:28 PM »
But Hornet, anyone can be a ninja like Nwbie in this day and age... youtube/google can teach you to do, or be, anything you want....  :aok

In all seriousness it's like all those young kids today who watch UFC religiously - who have never been in a real fight - yet think they can.

Wow Slamfire is that where you learned to debate?  If you stoop any lower than insults you may see your reflection

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Re: Obama encourages his minions to spead his lies and get in people's faces
« Reply #104 on: September 25, 2008, 08:38:20 PM »
In all seriousness it's like all those young kids today who watch UFC religiously - who have never been in a real fight - yet think they can.


im all with this, i know many kids who watch UFC and are looking for fights, but only with small wimpy kids, never a fair fight... sounds like AHII??
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