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Offline Jackal1

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008, 08:01:25 AM »
He wasn't suspended for wearing the shirt.  He was suspended for refusing to take it off or cover it.

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2008, 08:15:03 AM »

SURELY you do not believe this to be fact.

Yeah, seriously.  A teacher would fail you for stating your disbelief in a god.  A friend of mine actually got her suspended over that.

If you all are going to start whining about liberal schooling you should all be pissed off about the conservative indoctrination that goes on as well.  No reason to be hypocrites.
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2008, 08:17:48 AM »
Yeah, seriously.  A teacher would fail you for stating your disbelief in a god.  A friend of mine actually got her suspended over that.

If you all are going to start whining about liberal schooling you should all be pissed off about the conservative indoctrination that goes on as well.  No reason to be hypocrites.
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2008, 08:20:59 AM »
so bongboy..   are you really prepared to state here that the public school system is more conservative than liberal and does not spread liberal ideals as much as it does conservative ones?

That being the case.. or even the reverse being the case....

Why would anyone not be for vouchers?  if you feel that your childs mind is being poisoned.. why would you not want vochers so that you had some control?

Why would you not want some control in any case?

I didn't really mean "you"  as I know you are a child yourself and a product of all the conservative brainwashing at our public schools.

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 08:38:59 AM »
Perhaps you should tell your friend to find something other than a Catholic school to attend...

Was public school.  <S>

so bongboy..   are you really prepared to state here that the public school system is more conservative than liberal and does not spread liberal ideals as much as it does conservative ones?

I'd contend that it all depends on where you live.  Being in the Bible Belt I've almost always seen much more conservative teachers.  Upon reaching college I'd say it evened out.  If the teacher even discussed politics, beyond encouring people to vote, it was just as likely they would espout liberal rhetoric as conservative.  I can't even recall any teachers like that outside the Political Sciene department anyways.

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That being the case.. or even the reverse being the case....

Why would anyone not be for vouchers?  if you feel that your childs mind is being poisoned.. why would you not want vochers so that you had some control?

Why would you not want some control in any case?

Vouchers.  Everyone gets X dollars a year to spend at whichever private school they'd like?  I guess part of the deal is they still have to pass all the end of year exams just like homeschoolers?

Not much of a problem with me personally.  I'd rather the money stay in the public system but honestly I'd say this should be decided state to state, not nationally.  If your state is down with it, well thats your state, not mine. 

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I didn't really mean "you"  as I know you are a child yourself and a product of all the conservative brainwashing at our public schools.

And surprise, surprise!  We almost had an intelligent exchange of ideas and you again move to calling me a "child" and "brainwashed" at that. 

You sir are the only one acting childish. 
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2008, 08:51:43 AM »
I agree with you that vouchers should be state by state.   Those states that refused to have them would fail due to the lower performance of their future citizens.

Yes..  I believe that if public money is being spent then standards would need to be met.   I do not know of any private school tho that is having as much trouble meeting standards as the public ones.

I did not mean the kid thing as an insult.. To me you are a kid.. I have kids older than you..   I don't know that much about the school system in the bible belt but..  at any level higher than 12th grade..  I would bet that there is not a public funded education system (and even a lot of the private) that is not far left in it's leanings and teachings.

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2008, 08:55:18 AM »
Ohh... another frivolous law suit about to happen. :(
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2008, 09:02:23 AM »
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Anyway, the kid is an idiot, the father even more of an idiot for allowing that type of behavior. You want freedom of speech? Put it on after class, otherwise you're just asking for negative attention.

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2008, 09:05:42 AM »
I agree with you that vouchers should be state by state.   Those states that refused to have them would fail due to the lower performance of their future citizens.

Yes..  I believe that if public money is being spent then standards would need to be met.   I do not know of any private school tho that is having as much trouble meeting standards as the public ones.

I did not mean the kid thing as an insult.. To me you are a kid.. I have kids older than you..   I don't know that much about the school system in the bible belt but..  at any level higher than 12th grade..  I would bet that there is not a public funded education system (and even a lot of the private) that is not far left in it's leanings and teachings.

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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2008, 09:28:43 AM »
I grew up in one of the most liberal towns in America, and the only teacher who ever spouted off about politics was a conservative.  Maybe if I had grown up in a conservative town it would've been the other way around.
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2008, 12:21:33 PM »
That father should be ashamed of himself.  Most eleven year old kids don't have enough information to make an informed political decision.  He's just regurgitating what his father has told him.

If the father wants to make a political statement then he should wear the shirt to work, nothing wrong with that.  Using your child to make a statement and distract him from just being a normal kid is pathetic.
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2008, 12:23:54 PM »
The shirt was at least factual - William Ayers gave Osamabama his Chicago "Coming Out" party.

It's funny (to me) that a guy with Robert E. Lee as his avatar talks about any sort of anti-Americanism.


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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2008, 12:31:22 PM »
A center of education should be shielded of religious and political endoctrination. The teachers definitly are not allowed to spill their propaganda to young spongy minds. There's no freedom of speech in school, this tee shirt is as provocative as one that would say "I hate gays", or "Hitler for president".

Your first sentence is spot on.

The remainder I hope was just said to jest.  Most Teachers over the last 20 years have become so political that it's disgusting.

I think the kid got hosed, and in the end, he's gonna get a big check.
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2008, 12:37:29 PM »
i thought the art work was poor, don't they teach graphic arts in school?

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2008, 12:53:57 PM »
Your first sentence is spot on.

The remainder I hope was just said to jest.  Most Teachers over the last 20 years have become so political that it's disgusting.

I think the kid got hosed, and in the end, he's gonna get a big check.

Nope.  Supreme Court is with the schools on this one.  Similar to the Bong rips for Jesus poster some kid made somewhere.

If the principle is of the opinion that the child will be disrupting class he's going to win any case pressed against him.

And I agree with ChickenHawk

That father should be ashamed of himself.  Most eleven year old kids don't have enough information to make an informed political decision.  He's just regurgitating what his father has told him.

If the father wants to make a political statement then he should wear the shirt to work, nothing wrong with that.

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