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Offline Bodhi

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2008, 12:14:04 PM »
Ya know, the bias in this community is laughable.

Supporting laziness is still wrong.
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2008, 12:35:13 PM »
Ya know, the bias in this community is laughable.

Its comforting to know that the vocal part of this community in no way reflects America in general. If it was so McCane would win by 10 to 1  :)
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2008, 12:40:16 PM »
So then why did Obama constantly have to say, e.g. "that's not my position?" 

Because he forgot what his position actually was.

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2008, 12:43:22 PM »
Supporting laziness is exactly why you support who you do.

Me not supporting laziness is why I support who I do.

Can you understand that?

Oh please, break that one down for me...

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2008, 12:43:51 PM »
Nils  :aok

This place reminds me of The McLaughlin Report. A lot of bright minds from both sides. But they think whoever shouts the loudest wins.
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2008, 01:03:38 PM »
I found it understandable because McCain was throwing out straw-man after straw-man, which is worthy of interruption in my book.

Personal attacks, In the way we deal with them on this BBS, are by nature handled differently in a live debate. We deal with them on a paragraph at a time basis, With time to think about our responses, and being able to say (or type) something without interruption. A live debate is what you have in your head, right then and there. You don't have the time for carefully measured responses, Unless you are simply reading scripted lines' off a peice of paper. You have to reply to questions hitherto unknown, Attacks or otherwise. Obama's interupting of McCain is a good example. It proves to me that Obama isn't tied to a telepromter; And by the lack of some of McCain's sudden jump-up-and-say-it lines, He might be in a situation that would go from calm, level-headed reasoning to blaring profanity in seconds...Which I'm sure that McCain's staff wanted him to avoid. If he went into that debate acting the way he sometimes' does on the Senate floor, he would have been in real trouble. It looked to me like that was the one thing he was trying to avoid at all costs.

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2008, 01:41:41 PM »
I noticed during the debate, Obama numerous times interrupted or tried to interrupt McCain, rudely trying to talk over him and shut him up.  McCain, to the best of my recollection, never once did that to Obama.

It has been pointed out plenty in the press that McCain always referred to Obama as "Senator Obama", and yet Yomama constantly referred to Senator McCain as "John".

So, one of the candidates in the debate was rude and even a bit condescending, the other showed manners and respect.

If anyone watches some of the television programs when they have a democrat and a republican on together, you might notice that democrats are constantly interrupting and trying like wild to prevent the republican from speaking.  It seems common among many democrats to fear the truth, and not their spin getting heard by the public.

Just my opinion.

Hmmm.. Dago, hadn't thought about it.. and re-watching it after your post.. I agree.

Something else became apparent I didn't catch the first time through.. Obama was trying for some 'familiarity'.. attempting to present himself as an 'Equal'. McCain was not having any of it. He kept referring to Obama as 'Senator' and I'll be damned if he wasn't throwing the slight edge of disdain a military man uses when he says 'Sir' to an officer he considers to be a buffoon or an ass. I got the impression that McCain was the guy that was 'Presidential' in demeanor, dealing with an upstart puppy while Obama was desperate to be acknowledged as at least McCains equal... and Obama failed miserably at it... even calling McCain 'Tom' a few times. The 'subtext' byplay when your looking for it, is profound.

As you say.. Just my opinion. Good posts in this thread... <S!>
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2008, 01:57:09 PM »
that was one of the things i pointed out in the debate thread just moments after the debate ended.  you cannot call osamabama down on his faults... just isn't 'politically correct'.  you had a PBS moderator... what do you expect?  I can't stand McPain or osamabama but the world wants to give osamabama a pass on everything he said in the past, if he denies it - or says the way i meant that was....  he is a marxist dog - but the other marxists in the media sure do love him!
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2008, 02:46:23 PM »
Personal attacks, In the way we deal with them on this BBS, are by nature handled differently in a live debate. We deal with them on a paragraph at a time basis, With time to think about our responses, and being able to say (or type) something without interruption. A live debate is what you have in your head, right then and there. You don't have the time for carefully measured responses, Unless you are simply reading scripted lines' off a peice of paper. You have to reply to questions hitherto unknown, Attacks or otherwise. Obama's interupting of McCain is a good example. It proves to me that Obama isn't tied to a telepromter; And by the lack of some of McCain's sudden jump-up-and-say-it lines, He might be in a situation that would go from calm, level-headed reasoning to blaring profanity in seconds...Which I'm sure that McCain's staff wanted him to avoid. If he went into that debate acting the way he sometimes' does on the Senate floor, he would have been in real trouble. It looked to me like that was the one thing he was trying to avoid at all costs.

Sorry, but your post sounds like excuses and veiled accusations. Please stay on topic with what did happen, the behavior that was presented, and not "what might have happened".
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2008, 02:50:53 PM »
This guy has some class :salute

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2008, 02:51:21 PM »
Sorry, but your post sounds like excuses and veiled accusations. Please stay on topic with what did happen, the behavior that was presented, and not "what might have happened".

I was thinking that from what I said earlier, it was one of the key strategies' that kept McCain cool during the argument. I do believe that it was completely with the topic, as a possible explanation of his behaviour. All that any of us truly have about the candidate's behaviour during the debate is supposition, unless someone in here is on one of their staff's, with access to information on the debate strategy followed.... :rofl
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2008, 03:00:57 PM »
This guy has some class :salute

He does call it like he sees it. One of the things I really like about the old cracker. And considering the topic.. meeting with Spain's PM, he got it right and Obama was spreading horsepoo.

I may disagree vehemently with McGoo on some issues.. but there's never any doubt when the old duffer thinks what he's hearing qualifies as BS. And that, my friends, is why an honest politician is a prized rarity.

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2008, 03:03:51 PM »
All that any of us truly have about the candidate's behaviour during the debate is supposition,

Ahh, I disagree, since I actually watched the debate, I have more than supposition as to behavior, I was able to observe their behavior toward each other.  I don't have to guess at it.
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2008, 03:16:48 PM »
Ahh, I disagree, since I actually watched the debate, I have more than supposition as to behavior, I was able to observe their behavior toward each other.  I don't have to guess at it.

So, are you a trained observer, or a Psychologist? Because if you're not, your observations' only hold as much water as anyone else's. And can't be considered in any way more learned/superior. Just simply opinion.

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2008, 03:18:23 PM »
Supporting laziness is exactly why you support who you do.

Me not supporting laziness is why I support who I do.

Can you understand that?
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