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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2008, 07:22:57 AM »
Four years in the Philippines is starting to sound really really good right now.

Hell, 4 years anywhere is sounding better than here!
I have fought a good fight,
I have finished my course,
I have kept the faith.
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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2008, 07:27:19 AM »
Excuse me, I just want to make sure I follow this line of thought. Blacks voting for Obama are racist.

That must mean whites voting for McCain are racist?

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Almost.  Whites NOT voting for Obama are racists.

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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2008, 11:08:57 AM »
In Gary Indiana, the high schools were taking any students who had reached their 18th birthday out of school for a day to register to vote.  They have never done that before, and are only doing it because a black man is running for president.


Race baitin moron named Dago: Gary high schools and many other high schools have register to vote days.

Nice troll.

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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2008, 11:15:59 AM »
Almost.  Whites NOT voting for Obama are racists.

I did some canvassing for Obama this weekend, in lower middle class neighborhoods in Michigan.

The vote seems split 50/50. I had a couple of McCain households drop the n-bomb when talking to me.

So I know it's pure racism.


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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2008, 11:20:44 AM »
Geraldine was spot on when she said Obama would not be where he is today if he were not black. Of course Biden was right too, a "clean" black man running for president is just what some people have been waiting for.
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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2008, 11:22:11 AM »
Speaking of race... I got this email from one of my "political-activist, socially-aware" friends. She asks me why (despite not owning a gun), I love guns so much, and why can't I just start a Democrats for Guns party. She expects to be taken seriously, but can't give me serious answers about either McCain or Obama policies. All I get is this racial drivel:

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This is Your Nation on White Privilege

By Tim Wise
15/09/08 "ZSpace" -- - For those who still can't grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are constantly looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.


White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.


White privilege is when you can call yourself a "maskin' redneck," like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with y ou, you'll "kick their maskin' ass," and talk about how you like to "shoot poop" for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.


White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.


White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves w ith laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're "untested.
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White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because "if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it's good enough for me," and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s--while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.


White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you. White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto was "Alaska first," and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's being disrespectful.


White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college--you're somehow being mean, or even sexist.


White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a "second look.
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White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.


White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian , but if you're black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America.


White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a "trick question," while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O'Reilly means you're dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.


White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism is, as Sarah Palin has referred to it a "light" burden.


And finally, white privilege is the only t hing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters aren't sure about that whole "change" thing. Ya know, it's just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain.


White privilege is, in short, the problem.


Tim Wise is the author of White Like Me (Soft Skull, 2005, revised 2008), and of Speaking Treason Fluently, publishing this month, also by Soft Skull. For review copies or interview requests, please reply to publicity@softskull.com
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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2008, 11:22:20 AM »
Well the one thing about this country that makes it great is that EVERYONE is entitled to be a racists if they want to be so get over it.

Oh wait the liberals don't think anyone should be allowed to be racists so they want to legislate what and how people think. Yeah that's never going to work.

Personaly I could care less what color his skin is. His past voting record on the other hand scares the living crap out of me, so you can bet there is NO WAY I would ever vote for him.
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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2008, 11:48:00 AM »
Oh wait the liberals don't think anyone should be allowed to be racists so they want to legislate what and how people think. Yeah that's never going to work.

You mean affirmative action? Is that what you are talking about? That doesn't legislate how people think. Just who people hire.

And, for the record, minority tax breaks and AA should stop. It doesn't work, you have white guys claiming they are 1/32 Apache indian, so they can be the CEO of a casino with Indian tax breaks. Time to put racially based legislation to bed.

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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2008, 11:51:39 AM »
I did some canvassing for Obama this weekend, in lower middle class neighborhoods in Michigan.

The vote seems split 50/50. I had a couple of McCain households drop the n-bomb when talking to me.

So I know it's pure racism.



You know what's "pure racism"? Sounds like you are extrapolating the "couple of McCain households" to mean everyone who votes for McCain is racist? That's just ignorant.
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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2008, 12:46:23 PM »
You know what's "pure racism"? Sounds like you are extrapolating the "couple of McCain households" to mean everyone who votes for McCain is racist? That's just ignorant.

That's not what I'm saying. I am saying that racism is playing a part. A study has shown that Obama is losing about 6% nationally just on race. That's 6% of working class white voters who might have voted for Hillary or John Edwards (before his scandal) that won't vote for Obama just on the color of his skin.

I knocked on 142 doors this weekend - with about 40% of those people being home. It was half and half. Many of the McCain supporters were nice, a few were rude, about 3 made racist remarks. That seems to jive with the national average.

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Re: Obama's Race is ALL ABOUT RACE, not Qaulifications
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2008, 12:53:21 PM »
That's not what I'm saying. I am saying that racism is playing a part. A study has shown that Obama is losing about 6% nationally just on race. That's 6% of working class white voters who might have voted for Hillary or John Edwards (before his scandal) that won't vote for Obama just on the color of his skin.

I knocked on 142 doors this weekend - with about 40% of those people being home. It was half and half. Many of the McCain supporters were nice, a few were rude, about 3 made racist remarks. That seems to jive with the national average.

I think Obama is gaining far more votes due to race than he is losing. Is it not racist to vote for someone because of their race?
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