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Offline NEARY

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hmm need a little help
« on: September 30, 2008, 04:43:06 PM »
i have been flyin the la-7 and as we all know it runs out of ammo kinda quickly
but when i try to land the la-7 (and any other fighter) i alway lose my engine and with the la-7 i lose both my wings and every other removable part of the plane.

1 out of 42 times i make a successful landing

i am using flaps on full but whenever i land the plane suddenly swerves left or right knocking out the engine and both wing

i'm not having a hard time at all landing bombers they are easy to land but when i land fighters i always at least lose my engine
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can i get some tips on landing fighters?
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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2008, 04:44:09 PM »
Put down your landing gear. 'G' key on the key board.

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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2008, 04:51:24 PM »
Put down your landing gear. 'G' key on the key board.
i always do that.
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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2008, 05:05:58 PM »
watch speed, use rudder and brakes correctly.

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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 05:09:56 PM »
but whenever i land the plane suddenly swerves left or right knocking out the engine and both wing

Pull on stick after touch down to lock the tail wheel.

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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2008, 05:13:16 PM »
i do all of that except when i land the plane out of nowhere swerves in a certain direction knocking out everything
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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 05:17:26 PM »
i do all of that except when i land the plane out of nowhere swerves in a certain direction knocking out everything


You have to hold stick back or tail wheel will unlock again.

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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2008, 05:18:11 PM »
Are you talking about before or after you get your wheels on the ground? Sounds like you're snapstalling a few feet above the runway.

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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2008, 05:22:11 PM »
First you have to land at less than 200mph. You should really be landing at about 100 mph. Try to coast in with throttle cut, deploy 1 or 2 flaps and fly over the run way until the plane drops then pull nose up just a little to stall. As soon as you toucn down real in flaps and use a little rudder to stay strait. Pull up when on the ground to lock the tail wheel down and hit the brakes (space bar) to slow to stop and cut engine off.

It sounds to me that you are landing just under 200 and bouncing then hitting hard and breaking your gear.

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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2008, 07:04:20 AM »
i do all of that except when i land the plane out of nowhere swerves in a certain direction knocking out everything

The rotational torque of the prop pulls your plane to the side (just like when your cars alignment is out). Use a little opposite rudder to stay level.


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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2008, 12:48:52 AM »
Full flaps is to much flaps...

take 2 notches, gear out (both at ± 160 mph), land at 90-100mph as said before,

pull the stick back, and start braking gently, pumping...

Use rudder opposite to the torque as soon as you hit the ground

(make sure your advanced settings of your axes is enabled)


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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2008, 05:15:09 AM »
The second the wheels touch kill the engine and hit the brakes (spacebar).  A landing is not a controlled crash, fly the plane to the runway.  A any time during the approach you should have enough control and speed to give full throttle and fly away.
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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2008, 09:18:42 AM »
i have been flyin the la-7 snip........
but when i try to land the la-7 (and any other fighter) i alway lose my engine and with the la-7 i lose both my wings and every other removable part of the plane.
snip....
i am using flaps on full but whenever i land the plane suddenly swerves left or right knocking out the engine and both wing

Full flaps is to much flaps...

take 2 notches, gear out (both at ± 160 mph), land at 90-100mph as said before,

pull the stick back, and start braking gently, pumping...

Use rudder opposite to the torque as soon as you hit the ground

(make sure your advanced settings of your axes is enabled)


Can a person even keep an La-7 in flight between 100 mph and 90 mph with only 1 or 2 notches of flaps out?

at less than 110 mph or 100 mph you should most definitely have full flaps / all flaps extended

you should not lower your gear until you are under 160, preferably 150 mph or slower, to not risk tearing the gear off!!!

at this speed 160 to 150 1 to 2 notches of flaps extended YES..........slower you go, more flaps out you need to maintain controlled flight......

when using spacebar for brakes or using C ( left wheel brake  )  and V ( right wheel brake ) use them in a a way like on-off-on-off-on-off-on-off  until speed slows down, this way you will not nose over  by holding them down to long / too hard.  you can also use C and V alternating back and forth individually to keep you tracking straight down the runway.......

also check out Rolex's excellent write-up on the Trainers Website regarding landing.......

http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/combatlanding/combatlanding.htm


hope this helps.......
« Last Edit: October 02, 2008, 09:20:49 AM by TequilaChaser »
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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2008, 03:46:58 PM »
I always attempt a three-point landing (as long as the plane has a tailwheel and not a nosewheel). The goal is to try to make sure all three of your wheels touch down simultaneously. Attempting this will most often get you slow enough, and your tailwheel will be quickly down and ready to lock into place.

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Re: hmm need a little help
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 09:32:55 PM »
NEARY,

I made a film for you. I narriated the film as I make the landing.

A few notes:

I approached the runway from high and purposly gained speed. One hardly ever makes a nice strait in landing in the MA. You are usually trying to land as soon as possible.

I didnt want to show a simple perfect strait on landing because that just wouldnt help you as much.

This is "my style" others may land differently.

Remember that you have a lot of runway. If you come in over it at the very end you can fly strait with no power and flaps and just touch down.

I did have a few crashes just like you described. I was going to fast and was cross crontrolling to hard. The plane just spun out as soon as I locked the tail wheel. You have to be strait with no rudder until you lock the tail whell. If you are cross controlling when the gear hits you will spin.
The film
la7 landing
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