Explain to me why there's no need for proof of citizenship to vote

[Chalenge]

You have to be a registered voter whose name is checked off a list. If the same voter shows up at more then one poll they go to jail. Its not a question of WHAT they voted but that they did it twice.

If you let anyone vote without controls or limitations of any sort all a country has to do is send boatloads of their citizens to our country on election day and write in Putin or Bin Laden or ... you know I shouldnt have said that.

[mietla]

Florida in the days following the Al Gore push to 'recount' discovered more and more voter fraud and began prosecuting individuals that voted in Florida and absentee in New York also. Dems especially have to be careful what they ask for.

that's why I favor digital voting. With paper vote (chads and all the works, re examining the chads?, are they really hanging?, they've been punched but are they really disconnected?, but look this is an old lady ... did she really MEAN to push the Bush chad ... I think NO WAY... I think she meant Gore just did not find the proper hole) reinterpretation and all

I am a techie dude. It is clearly possible to create an "electronic (and practically/fail proof)" [ONE PERSON----ONE VOTE] or [ONE PERSON --- (weighthed) VOTE] or any other vote/tax-payment/decision-influence/war-waging system system today.

BTW, isn't this what Feds promise you... agree to a Nation ID Card and everything will be ok? What do you boogers do with all the illegals? Obviously you are going to give them "amnesty" after which there will be another "better yet" ID card

Whatever WE choose can be done today.

Where is this faith is paper trail coming from. Just because it is on paper "it must be true". You can manipulate/alternate/fake a paper trail MUCH easier that you can an electronic one

[Hangtime]

unless you wrote the program. and own the machine the runs it. and the network. and the computer that prints it out for the talking head.

...and a majority share interest in the news corporation that pays the talking head doesn't hurt either.

[mietla]

You have to be a registered voter whose name is checked off a list. If the same voter shows up at more then one poll they go to jail. Its not a question of WHAT they voted but that they did it twice.

If you let anyone vote without controls or limitations of any sort all a country has to do is send boatloads of their citizens to our country on election day and write in Putin or Bin Laden or ... you know I shouldnt have said that.

I'm not talking about a dude who votes twice. I'm talking about "a person" showing up at the poll and telling them... (and believe me or not I personally witnessed this last time I voted).

polling person:   what is your name and what is your address?
the person:       I'm not registered to vote
polling person:   ok then, fill this registration form and here is your ballot...
ME:                 excuse me, can you actually give a ballot to an unknown/unregistered person?
polling person:   Sir, if you do not stop interfering with the ELECTION process I will have you arrested.

this is how bad IT IS NOW

[mietla]

unless you wrote the program. and own the machine the runs it. and the network. and the computer that prints it out for the talking head.

...and a majority share interest in the news corporation that pays the talking head doesn't hurt either.

not really. It is trivially possible to distribute the control over the vote. No entity controls the whole thing. It is only after all gather/collect/submit their results the whole picture becomes clear.

And this is what we need/want.

there is no easier way to control the "paper" vote. One we count the votes it is "TRUE/FACT",   yeah , right.


It is clearly/obviously/definitely POSSIBLE to create a VOTER-FRAUD-PROOF system today. It is just that those who we vote for (a preprepared a MENU of course) don't like it.

[Chalenge]

...this is how bad IT IS NOW

In my home state the person not registered would be given a provisional ballot to be counted only at such a time as a recount or close election occurs. Because of the provisional ballot system all provisional ballots are checked carefully in order to avoid the A.C.O.R.N. syndrome. Your state laws must be tainted with liberal influence.

[mietla]

In my home state the person not registered would be given a provisional ballot to be counted only at such a time as a recount or close election occurs. Because of the provisional ballot system all provisional ballots are checked carefully in order to avoid the A.C.O.R.N. syndrome. Your state laws must be tainted with liberal influence.

and you believe it, right???

[SD67]

Here in Australia, voting is compulsory. You must be registered to vote, and you must be a citizen to register.
I voted when I was 18 and I didn't vote since because there was really nothing to vote for. It did not matter who you voted for, a politician would win, things would go on and muchly remain the same. The electoral commission once threatened to prosecute me for a)failing to maintain my registration to vote and b) failing to actually vote. I told them to go for it and never heard a thing from them.
I actually registered and voted in the last election for the first time in 22 years because for the first time there was actually not so much something to vote FOR but something to vote AGAINST.
It's really a bit odd, the new Government is actually ideologically left of the old one, but they have taken a harder stance on welfare reduction, Government downsizing and spending than the "right" wing mob, and are actually trying to relax some of the draconian gun laws.

[Chalenge]

and you believe it, right???

Well there was quite a bit of press about the people that were charged with voter fraud. Of course there is no way of knowing if they actually did jail time paid fines or disappeared into the darkness of the north but at least the crime was known. Its much easier to believe in that sort of thing then it is anything Clinton or Gore.

[john9001]

right now in ohio they are picking people up off the street and driving them to the polls for one stop register and voting.

[mietla]

Well there was quite a bit of press about the people that were charged with voter fraud. Of course there is no way of knowing if they actually did jail time, paid fines or disappeared into the darkness of the north but at least the crime was known. Its much easier to believe in that sort of thing then it is anything Clinton or Gore.

but ... for now theire's OUR vote.... still holds, ???? That is all WE care of course.


Dad's and Mom's every where
Vote YES

[lazs2]

the democrats are learning.. they always have a huge drive to sign up mushead pot smokers and illegals and criminals and crazy homeless but...  those guys never seem to be able to find the polling booths on election day and.. if you drive a bus around to round em up.. you can't really find em..

Soooo  they have started "same day voting"  where you drive the bus around all the homeless shelters and alleys and hooker areas and lowes parking lots for illegals and sign em up on the cocktail tour bus and take em right to the polls.. miles away.. no vote.. no ride home.

This is not foolproof either tho..  no telling what these idiots will do once in the booth... urinate on the machine.. whatever.

I believe the next "fair voting" practice the democrats will clamor for is "assisted voting"  where they have a democrat in the booth with the guy to make sure he marks the ballot correctly.

lazs

[mietla]

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[SD67]

It's really not that hard, The change will be as simple as adding an extra S...
Obamamamma wants you to try it now, ten times to get used to it.
USSA
USSA
USSA
USSA
USSA
USSA
USSA
USSA
USSA
USSA
There that's not so hard is it?

[Ripsnort]

I admit I am confused on this one.

Why is there no requirement that a person show proof of citizenship before being registered to vote? According to that conservative rag the NY Times only Arizona requires proof of citizenship.

OMFG

Voter Registration Card!!!

You don't have it, you can't vote.

mg...huh...re-read what he asked...

You dont need proof of citizenship to get a card....Obama would say it like ..."just ask and ye shall recieve my imigrants"

Looks like MG has ran from another thread!