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Offline Dadsguns

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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #75 on: October 06, 2008, 12:43:26 PM »
I have read again and again,  in book after book of first hand accounts  real life pilots taking head on shots.   The fact is that  head on shots are just as much a part of of Air Combat Maneuvers as being on somebodies six. This comunity need to get over it.

I have flown here for 100+ tours and during that time I have tried to stick to this phony chivalry of not firing on HO passes only to get shot down because they did not.  If your opponent has his/her tracers off you have no idea you are being fired upon until you get close enough to see the muzzle flashes.  At this point it is maybe too late.  Also if you try to avoid a Head On pass you are giving up some angle to the enemy, which against an expert pilot maybe all the edge he needs to beat you.

The best advice i can give is the same thing a boxing referee tells you at the beginning of a match... "protect yourself at all times"

To the comunity I say ....."get over it"


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Your absolutley right on. 
I will try to avoid them, but when I get ganged by two or more at one time, the option is there and I will take it to even the odds.  Gangtards are open game and anything goes. :salute


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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #76 on: October 06, 2008, 01:10:07 PM »
Hoing is getting worse in MW. Helm is correct about tracers off.... however if you fire first your conceding that the other pilot is better than you based on your description. If you hold fire and maneuver with him you'll improve your skill. If you just concede that everyone else is better than you, they will be. Maneuvering doesn't mean just turn fighting... if your not in a turn fighter get separation. The point is to outfly your opponent. If you always take the easy way out you'll never learn the limits of your ability or your plane's.

When it comes down to it anyone can Ho. But in the end, even if the other guy is dead, you conceded that he was a better cartoon pilot.
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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #77 on: October 06, 2008, 01:20:10 PM »
Dropped Flotsom.....**shake hands**

Still like to DA ya all gentlemen like sometime.... :)



Now, my opinion and why I think it (about the ho):

If there is a 1v1, I see absolutely no reason to ho on the first pass....  2 on 1, maybe...  3 on 1, definitely...
in a 1v1, if someone ho's on the first pass, I see it as opportunistic...  Yes yes, real dogfighting was opportunistic as well...
But this is not real dogfighting..  I see no other reason for a 1v1 first merge ho other than that individual can use all the
kills he can get (really cares about score)...  Whatever.....People play the game their own way...  For some, score is very important and it
shows in the way they play...  For others, it's all about the thrill of besting someone in virtual combat(what I call fun)..  I do not see a ho as
besting anyone in most cases....  I tend to avoid merges now due to the ho, especially in a 38 that I believe is more susceptible to ho's than other planes due to it's size..

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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #78 on: October 06, 2008, 01:26:11 PM »
    Take out the Enemy in any way possible. What I object to is the Direct attempt at Collision because the opposing plane often has little damage. Most Mid-air collisions in the real world result in both aircraft going down and I wish it was that way with AHII. 
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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #79 on: October 06, 2008, 03:18:26 PM »
12 on 12 gun solutions exist in the real world ...and they exist in Aces High ....end of story

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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #80 on: October 06, 2008, 03:32:11 PM »
Anodizer if you ever want to DA, i would be happy to. for you it would be target practice for me it would be a learning expierience.

i do not mind losing to a better player, as long as it is with the understanding that you will explain your tactics so that i may learn and improve my own skills from the encounter.

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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #81 on: October 06, 2008, 03:54:26 PM »
I fly online so that I can dogfight other human beings, and hopefully shoot them down.  It's not the kill as much as the fight.

I can get kills all day long offline, HOing drones until the cows come home.

Kills are kills.  Fights are fun.

I'm not going to waste my time ending a dogfight with a 2 second squirt in the face online, when I can do that to my heart's content offline. 
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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #82 on: October 06, 2008, 04:18:09 PM »


I'm not going to waste my time ending a dogfight with a 2 second squirt in the face online, when I can do that to my heart's content offline. 

i know there is some stank of a porn related topic in here but i just cant seem to put my finger on it. help anyone?
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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #83 on: October 07, 2008, 04:58:32 AM »
i know there is some stank of a porn related topic in here but i just cant seem to put my finger on it. help anyone?

I was thinking the same thing, but I think it might be best left to the imagination.

Actually, I really don't want to imagine that :O

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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #84 on: October 07, 2008, 11:41:35 AM »
i just found this on the trainers website.

HEAD-ON SHOTS: A "head-on" is a shot when you are nose to nose with the enemy. It is considered bad form and the mark of a dweeb to take a head-on shot, especially on the merge but many people take them anyway. I guess the best line of reasoning I have heard on this is "It takes two to head-on"! For me personally, and for many others, it isn't much of a game if everybody goes straight at each other with guns blazing and whoever got the best roll of the dice from the computer (as far as hits, misses, and damage caused) wins. Do your best to avoid having to receive or give head-on shots.
Murdr says: While a front quarter shot is completely valid, when someone is intent on making a head on shot during the initial merge, it is a clear sign of an inexperienced player. The experienced player knows how to routienly avoid such shots while simultaniously gaining an angles advantage on their opponent. Hence while on player is trying to line up a head on shot, the other is already maneuvering to get on their six after the merge.

KILL STEALING: In Aces High, a damaged plane can spin helplessly to the ground after having its wing shot off in a good fight. The victor of this fight, assuming he is any good, is probably already looking for the next fight, and maybe even anticipating seeing who he killed. A kill stealer is someone who chases the tumbling, burning wreckage that was once a plane down to the ground, pumping it full of bullets, and gets a kill because he gets more hits into it before it hits the ground. This is the mark of a true dweeb who cares only for his score, not whether he is any good or not. While accidents do happen, don't shoot into planes that are already going down.



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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #85 on: October 07, 2008, 11:42:38 AM »
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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #86 on: October 07, 2008, 11:51:49 AM »
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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #87 on: October 07, 2008, 12:01:02 PM »
you trying to brainwash us? use the spinning hypno disk thing works better than triple posts :p
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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #88 on: October 07, 2008, 12:34:25 PM »
you trying to brainwash us? use the spinning hypno disk thing works better than triple posts :p

sorry bout the triple post guys.......my puter farted i think, and i kept hitting the post button
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Re: I know this is gonna go badly
« Reply #89 on: October 07, 2008, 12:40:42 PM »
i admit i read the first sentance of the second one before i realised  :uhoh
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