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Offline sluggish

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An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« on: October 05, 2008, 09:16:15 AM »
Do away with the payroll tax.  Make everyone pay their taxes out of pocket quarterly.  We have become a "net pay" society.  To the point where most just give a passing glance at the FICA, state and SS deductions.  Of course, the reason those automatic deductions are there is to prevent the all-out revolt and refusal to pay that would happen if the masses had to pay their taxes out of pocket.

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 09:21:15 AM »
Go one step further.  Make final yearly taxes due October 31.  There is a reason tax day is 6 months before/after election day. 
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 09:30:01 AM »
This is NOT a new idea!  Been said many times before but try and get the politicians to agree to it.

And of course you have the liberal democrats that are actually socialist and they want you and everyone else to give all your money to the state so THEY can dole it out and have everyone worship the state (and them) that will NEVER vote for such a thing!
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 09:56:12 AM »
or at least compensate the employer/tax collector for the myraid of nonsense he must go through to currently collect the tax for the gubmint for free.

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 09:59:57 AM »
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To the point where most just give a passing glance at the FICA, state and SS deductions.

if you think wage earners don't want to look at the fine print on the stubbs now, wait until they add the national health care deduction.
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 11:04:57 AM »
You guys are thinking too small.




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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 11:11:42 AM »
The People is the US have it easy for Taxes....
Here is mine From last month

Gross Pay : €8611,76
Net Pay: €4552,15

€ 650 of the witholding is for Retirement and health Insurance:

The rest is TAX!!!!
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2008, 11:14:31 AM »
Yah.. but weed is cheap and women are... women.

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2008, 11:22:38 AM »
The People is the US have it easy for Taxes....
Here is mine From last month

Gross Pay : €8611,76
Net Pay: €4552,15

€ 650 of the witholding is for Retirement and health Insurance:

The rest is TAX!!!!

unbelievable.  that is what obama would have us become

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2008, 11:58:16 AM »
yet....except for having some of the worst suicide rates in the world..  poll after poll has shown that these are the "happiest" people on the planet.   That is what the democrats have in store for us.

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2008, 12:31:33 PM »
I'm all for a National sales tax. That should be the ONLY tax that the government should get. It would force them to keep the economy going good or they would see less money.

Of course the only way it would work is make it where the people vote on increases in the sales tax as well. It would give the power back to the people.
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2008, 06:34:44 PM »
The People is the US have it easy for Taxes....
Here is mine From last month

Gross Pay : €8611,76
Net Pay: €4552,15

€ 650 of the witholding is for Retirement and health Insurance:

The rest is TAX!!!!


I thought you were all happy socialists...

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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2008, 06:38:06 PM »
unbelievable.  that is what obama would have us become

Not "Would" become..... Will become....
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2008, 07:06:04 PM »
I'm all for a National sales tax. That should be the ONLY tax that the government should get. It would force them to keep the economy going good or they would see less money.

Of course the only way it would work is make it where the people vote on increases in the sales tax as well. It would give the power back to the people.

It sounds good and all... but then when the legislators talk numbers, they say things like 15-20%. Seems a bit high to me, especially while living in a state where some cities and counties charge over 8% already.
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Re: An excellent way to open the eyes of Americans
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2008, 07:44:12 PM »
Well the current sales Tax in Europe (Euro Zone) is 19% on most thing's and 3-6% on food.