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Offline Dago

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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2008, 04:02:46 PM »
I don't get it?

The thing about Obama that I do not like is that I do not see anything in his record that qualifies him to be President of the United States and his senate career is the pinnacle of his life's achievement as far as I am concerned.  Since he was born,  what has he achieved?  What has he LEAD?  What executive experience does he have?  What huge and clear successes can he point to as examples of the benefits we can expect from his leadership?

Since he joined the US Senate.....  the National debt has gone up by over 10 times, the US has totally squandered a victory in the Cold War,  US entitlement obligations have more than doubled,  our campaign finance and election system have become grossly corrupt....  the general failures go on an on.

I fail to see how anyone can rationalize things to the point where Obama appears palatable.  He is a poster boy for all that is wrong with Washington.  He IS big Govt. failure and the corruption of career political operatives.

Obama is an excellent example of all that is wrong with our political system.  

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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2008, 04:25:40 PM »
If it sickens you that we would look at the facts objectively, then I hope you die.

This alone ought to earn you a PNG....unreal you'd say that....then again.....reading some of what I have read and heard this political season...WHy should I find this over the top.
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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2008, 04:47:36 PM »

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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2008, 05:19:27 PM »
  Also, due to a fire caused by McCains plane, he nearly sunk the U.S.S. Forrestal.
You sir are a numpty.
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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2008, 05:23:56 PM »
I give this 200 KRUSTYS.
That estimation my friend.. is on the low end.
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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2008, 05:43:10 PM »
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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2008, 05:53:40 PM »
If it sickens you that we would look at the facts objectively, then I hope you die.

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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2008, 06:02:47 PM »
McCain should be respected for fighting in Vietnam.  However, I think he was a fairly poor pilot. He graduated third from the bottom of his class, failed a major exam, and lost 5 airplanes.  His father was an Admiral, and you can be pretty sure that had some effect on his career.  Also, due to a fire caused by McCains plane, he nearly sunk the U.S.S. Forrestal.

McCain's plane caused the fire? Please elaborate. :huh

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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2008, 06:08:14 PM »
[sarcasm]

Well you see, McCain knew he'd be running for president, and he's so evil, that after already knowing that, he purposely set it afire and then, didn't take the blame for it and pointed out obviously to something simpler, like a mechanical error with the plane. But he's really evil

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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2008, 06:11:18 PM »
McCain should be respected for fighting in Vietnam.  However, I think he was a fairly poor pilot. He graduated third from the bottom of his class, failed a major exam, and lost 5 airplanes.  His father was an Admiral, and you can be pretty sure that had some effect on his career.  Also, due to a fire caused by McCains plane, he nearly sunk the U.S.S. Forrestal.

 USS Forestall fire was caused by a missile that ignited accidentally. McCain was there, right in the middle of it. There is a video on this whole thing. Watched several times while I was in the Navy. Read the after action reports at safety school. This accident is studied (or was when I was in) in most of the Navy safety schools. Its easy to second guess some actions under stress. Especially if you have never been in wartime operations. Its a lot different than watching it on TV. Not near a fun.

  Graduating position in your class in Annapolis has little to do with your pilot ability. Just to be selected fighters means he was a above average pilot coming out of training. The accident rate for aircraft in all of our services was quite high in the 60s.
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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2008, 06:58:42 PM »
Fixed


No problems from me with your changes....



Neither Obama nor McCain is qualified to be President as far as I am concerned. Either way.... we are screwed.  Would you prefer your corrupt, bought and paid for political squeak slapping in vanilla or chocolate?





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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2008, 07:55:13 PM »
what? no strawberries? haldeman got strawberries. erlichman got strawberries.

i want strawberries.
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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2008, 01:40:40 AM »
One thin I didn't mentioned in this thread McCain could have been released if he would have signed a statement .
Wonder how many of us would have refused with his injuries and the fact that he knew torture was coming his way .

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« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2008, 02:45:22 AM »
Also, due to a fire caused by McCains plane, he nearly sunk the U.S.S. Forrestal.

That has got to take the cake for the most retarded accusation I have heard in my entire life. IIRC, it was McCains plane that was HIT by a missile.

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Re: McCain War hero? Interesting read!
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2008, 07:48:17 AM »
Aqua is just demonstrating once again that books can't teach you everything and that he is a complete idiot when it comes to history. He likes to make it up as he goes along.
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