i hate to sound like an arse, but, sir, if you were present for the mentioned crimp, part of the group that committed the crime, and did nothing to stop them, or in some other way, prevent it, then yes sir, you DID commit the crime. you were part of the crime. makes you totally, and completley guilty. you could've walked away, or attempted to stop your friends(?) in some way.
no you do not sound like an arse, it is the same opinion of society at large, which is why i went to prison for it.
my statement was in reffence to my direct actions and participation guilt of a crime. i had no action in the in the event. i did not commit or take any direct part in the crime, i was actually half a block away talking to someone else entirely when it occurred. but i was a part of the group that did commit it, and i had a very good reason to believe that it would happen if nothing was done to prevent it. in my mind at the time (and to be honest even today) the person was gonna get what they deserved. so i accepted my responsibility in the event, omission of an act of prevention is as culpable an act as the performance of a direct action.
i think what i was trying do get a cross in my comment is that there are varying levels of what guilt or innocent is. that allot of those who cry innocence because they had no direct action in a particular event, are in reality as guilty those committing the act personally. which is why i said factually innocent(taking no part of) technically guilty(failing to prevent). i had no action in the event, but.......
so i agree with you sir, i would have convicted me too.
Negative. The fact that lesser drugs are illegal is what creates the "criminals". The black market if you will.
Plenty of people know this and have their own silent grows in their basement or attic for them and their friends; not for money or evil intentions.
If someone is doing his time, improving himself with education and work skills, isn't a violent offender, I personally see no reason why they shouldn't be outta jail where we're all paying for their ride and let them get back to life.
this is the argument of the age, i disagree with your creation theory. is it because of the laws that rape or burglary are wrong? what about murder, we just decriminalize it and all will be OK? evil in tention is an intentional violation of law, that is what it means. so when you knowingly commit any act in violation of any law your action are intentionally against the greater good. what is law must be supported until it is legally changed. if not then the few who are willing to break the law will rule the land and the rest will suffer for it. they voted it illegal, there for until it is changed by vote it shall remain illegal whether or not you and i agree with them that it should be.
now morally as in regards to lesser drugs i agree with you, legalize it and leave the people alone.
i agree completely with your statement about getting a person of good behavior out of jail and off the tax paying meal ticket.
I disagree. Society may invent a victim in order to justify regulations, but that doesn't mean there really is one. "Crime", in the traditional sense, is an action that violates another individuals rights. If you take an action that violates my right to life, liberty or property (ex. murder, kidnapping, theft) then a crime has been committed. Everything else is just regulating behavior. Vice laws for example, which punish a behavior that society deems unacceptable but doesn't violate any individuals rights, are simply regulations on behavior.
technically a crime is anything that is in contradiction to the greater good. All laws are regulatory in their nature. we live in a society that votes its laws into power, the greater good carries the vote by numbers. i do not agree with all of the laws, but that changes nothing. society would fall apart and end in chaos if we allowed people to pick and chose what laws they will abide by. we live in a society, a collective group of people, as an individual we must live up to that societies standards or be willing to accept the consequences of our actions.
old proverb, "don't do the crime if you cant do the time". sounds lame but it is true. if you don't want to face the possible consequences of your actions then don't commit them.
i morally agree with you, but i understand that the law is the law. if you don't like it as it is work on changing it not just breaking it.
it is a crime because a law says it is , not because it is something inherently wrong. Unfortunately most laws on the books are of that type, they are laws that attempt to control not to protect.
very well put sir!!!!!!
but i believe the they are laws that try to protect by attempting to control.
Wonderful conversation guys
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