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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2008, 11:37:06 PM »
Still its bad advice because unless you know what the user has for a system... besides in a flight sim you should always free up as much as you can.
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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2008, 04:49:25 AM »
thanks for the heads up challenge appreciate that
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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2008, 04:57:26 AM »
Remember some will forget to turn back firewall. If you have a decent computer, a bad recommendation like Challenges is to turn fire wall off if you are unfamiliar. Your computer will run fine with AH with windows firewall on. Some people like to make statements and recommendations. Non experienced people who may not understand will turn their firewall off and forget how to turn it on. Bad idea. I had an old AMD processor maybe 1.5g and had absolutely no problems with AH with windows firwall on. Will your computer run better.... Yes but rather not needed with todays technology.
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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2008, 02:36:20 PM »
I just want to point out that contrary to what the previous poster stated I 'never' suggested a firewall be turned off preferring instead a hardware firewall.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2008, 04:00:41 PM »
Most people have hardware firewalls in their DSL modems and routers. So there's no real need for software firewalls.
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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2008, 02:02:03 AM »
That is what I have been saying why are we going on with this subject. Void... I mean Challenge likes to stir the kettle. It is not wise  to suggest in a general forum to turn off all firewalls. All you need is windows firewall. See above reply.
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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2008, 11:56:36 AM »
I suggest you take your veiled insults to another site. If either of us has given 'bad advice' it would be you.
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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2008, 02:27:50 PM »
hello people

i just wanted to put a break in the quickly building argument starting in this thread.

take breather guys! every body has an opinion and we tend to defend them strongly even to the detriment of another. you both started with the best of intentions and are both arguing over the same issue, balance between performance and protection. when in reality neither of you are wrong.

but just because you have differing views does not make either of you wrong or "intentionally giving bad advice" one is giving advice that safety should take precedence and not to risk forgetting to turn your firewall back on and the other is advicing that a person should be responsible enough to remember to to reset things to a safer level when not playing A.H.. you are both correct.

both of you offer good advice, take it as differing means to obtain the sought after goal. but now let us get back to that goal.

BMWNG is having issues with rubber bullets, this is an issue that more than one of us seams to suffer from. so the responces listed herein have become the starting point of research and alterations and hopefully improvements to our systems.

so i ask you, please put aside your differing opinions and return to sharing with us your knowledge and wisdom on these matters. it does in the end fall onto the shoulders of the person utilizing the advice to determine the manner and method in which it is applied. they shall either bear the burden of making the final decision or shall make no changes and remain ever in the dark shooting blanks!!!

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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2008, 06:35:24 AM »
Every piece of software running on your computer will have an impact on the performance of the game.  Software firewalls, partcularly those which are not configured properly, will have an impact on the network latencies, as well as CPU usage.  How much impact will vary from computer to computer.

It is incorrect to state software firewalls have no impact.  It is equally incorrect to imply they will kill your game performance, as a general statement.

The best I can offer, is to try it with and without and make the determination yourself as to how much the impact is.

Anti-virus programs, on the other hand, are far worse than software firewalls as far as overall system usage is concerned.  Again, the impact will vary from system to system.


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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2008, 11:02:57 AM »
OK the Skuzzster has spoken!!!!!!!


Now that you have teased and intrigued us with these tantalizing bits of your wisdom, would you mind giving up the goods!!!!!!!!

could you go a little deeper into the settings of a firewall, and describe the difference between a hardware software as opposed to a programing software. the obviouse differences aside, how do you set them both up or disable the ect ect.

thank you in advance

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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2008, 11:34:34 AM »
Still its bad advice because unless you know what the user has for a system... besides in a flight sim you should always free up as much as you can.

goes back to what you first said. i run my firewalls during the game plus yahoo and myspaceIM and i lose no proformance. but i have a nice enough computer to do it with
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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2008, 12:07:42 PM »
goes back to what you first said. i run my firewalls during the game plus yahoo and myspaceIM and i lose no proformance. but i have a nice enough computer to do it with

i use to be able to watch a dvd (dual monitors) with all my I.M.'s running and/or XMRadio running while playing, i use to run everything and had no issues at all. until the update that A.H. did late last yearish. whenever it was that they did that big update. since then i have had only problems!!!!! screen pauses rubber bullets black outs at low g's ect. i have done so many updates and changes to my system its nothing like it use to be. i have 4g of ram 1g of mem on my video card additional mem on my sound card i am running only 11 services after running enditall2 and casheman memory recovery, but while playing i still get the pauses and other issues.

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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2008, 12:09:17 PM »
goes back to what you first said. i run my firewalls during the game plus yahoo and myspaceIM and i lose no proformance. but i have a nice enough computer to do it with

Unlike you I shut down all processes I dont need and I use a hardware firewall. I started doing this because when I just launched into the game without shutting down background programs I was getting situations where cons were shooting empty space behind me and still hitting me. With everything setup the way I have it now the only problem I see online is occasional warp from certain users (the notorious and well known IVAN for instance). With patience even that isnt an issue.

Im now using AlacrityPC (formerly FSAutoStart) and I reboot before and after every online session of AH and I use O&O Defrag v.11 regularly.
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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2008, 01:35:49 PM »
goes back to what you first said. i run my firewalls during the game plus yahoo and myspaceIM and i lose no proformance. but i have a nice enough computer to do it with

This is a bad idea and I cannot stress firmly enough it can cause problems.  Just because it is acceptable to you, does not make it a good idea for everyone.

You cannot run any software with the CPU having to run it.  When the CPU (regardless of the number of cores) has to run something, the game stops running.  No matter the brevity, it does stop.  Everytime a CPU core has to access memory, no other device, including other cores, can access memory.  Not an opinion.  That is the way it works.

Flotsom, the single biggest issue I have seen in software firewalls is people who like to log all the hits for every port in the computer.  This is simply silly.  The only ports you have to worry about are the which have LISTENERS attached to them.  All the other noise reported by a software firewall is just noise to make you paranoid.

Logging means the disk will have to be accessed.  Disk accesses are a pretty good guarantee that the game will take a severe performance hit.  Manifestions include, pauses, freezes, stutters, warps and any other name you can attach which indicates non-smooth gameplay.

Bottomline is this;  If you want the absolute best and smoothest gameplay, then you will do everything you can to make sure nothing is running in the background that is absolutely not required for the computer to operate.
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Re: Rubber Bullets
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2008, 01:55:44 PM »
ok so i have managed to disable (completely) my firewall. it windows live one care. when i disable this i believe it also diables any windows based  built in firewall.

i have sent you an e-mail. im sure you have alot of things going on so ill be patient and await your reply. any advise would be welcome

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