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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #180 on: November 04, 2008, 07:08:24 PM »
Tasca Ford is but 15 min away from me. You should see some of their tricked out mustangs. :D
You have heard of Tasca haven't you? :noid

oooooo yes........

they were supert heavy into the drags, if i remember?
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #181 on: November 04, 2008, 07:09:25 PM »
Ford: Last Trade: $2.60

GM: Last Trade: $5.72

Looks like Ford's going to need an even bigger supercharger.

nope.....they're gonna get a bail out from uncle....uumm....whoever wins tonight.  :rofl :rofl
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #182 on: November 04, 2008, 07:10:57 PM »
Never thought I'd live to see the day a Ford guy use a Ricer's argument...nice.

well, the rice burners are simply imitating us.

i think arguments like this have been going on between ford, chevy, pontiac, buick, etc for a looooong time.
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #183 on: November 04, 2008, 07:15:53 PM »
Anywhere but there.  A Ford guy should know better.

Also, technically, the LS7 is a small block, not a big block.

technically, yes......but it still displaces more than the ford. at least drop down to a 5.7L, then compare.

i haven't looked into the 5.4's to see how they're put together, but the old 4.6L(that ford effed up on by not building to its potential) was pretty much a SOHC 427 shrunken down and fuel injected. it was a "Y" block, not a "V", and thus was MUCH stronger. it had crossbolted mains, and could easily be built to produce upwards of 700hp. all from 267(i think) cubic inches, no power adders.

 that's one of the things that really pisses me off that ford did. i also STILL think the fast mustangs re overpriced, but then so will be the camaros i think.

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #184 on: November 04, 2008, 07:17:47 PM »
Anywhere but there.  A Ford guy should know better.

Also, technically, the LS7 is a small block, not a big block.

wait??


a ford guy should know better than what? to question chevy's power?  to question the fact that they need to use a larger engine to make their car beat the ford they copied from? that they copied from ford to begin with?    :rofl :D
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #185 on: November 04, 2008, 09:00:27 PM »
CAP, there's no need for a retort from me.  Your incredibly complex and illuminating replies tell all who need to know the Ford position from a Ford "phan". 

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #186 on: November 04, 2008, 09:32:53 PM »
oooooo yes........

they were supert heavy into the drags, if i remember?
Tasca more or less set up the Tbolts soo....yea a little into the drags. ;)
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #187 on: November 04, 2008, 09:38:20 PM »
Is the geezer in the background the guy that owns the stang?  If so, it figures.

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #188 on: November 04, 2008, 09:38:53 PM »
CAP, there's no need for a retort from me.  Your incredibly complex and illuminating replies tell all who need to know the Ford position from a Ford "phan". 

 :D  :lol  :rofl

WELL, My preference is fords. as i've already stated in this thread(i think) and one similar on the other board, i like anything that looks good, has a nice V8 rumble, and goes fast.

 but then there's no need for me to show too much more how ford power is better.

 just remember, 5.0L powered mustang vs 5.0Lpowered camaros, the stangs came out on top. chevy needed to go to a 5.7L to take on the mustang.
 same was true in the 60's. the 283 powered camaros couldn;t touch the 289 powered mustangs, thus, they went to 327's then 350's, 396's(i think) and eventually 427's. meanwhile ford answered with the 351W, then the 351C, 390, 427, 428, and then a 429(which was really quite a pig on the street).

 now, i have driven a 69 camaro with a 302, muncie 4 speed, 3.73(i think) rearm 4 wheel disc brakes, and was SERIOUSLY impressed with this car. completley stock, and she was still pulling at 7500rpm in 3rd gear. power shifting was smooooth and easy....much easier than the T-5's i'm used to.
 i had a 73 plymouth roadrunner.....way oversized, but pretty cool. had a 73 plymouth scamp(same as a dart) with a 318 automatic.
 had a 70 chevy 4x4 pickup with a smallblock 400, and a 4 speed. she'd pull away from pretty much anything on the street till about 80 or so....that's when she started shaking bad enough to scare me.

 i've had many different vehicles, but just seem to prefer the fords.
 as for repairing them, the FI fords, are actually much easier than the gm's to work on. most techs don;t like the fords due to lack of datastream. they forget that the ford computers worked much quicker than the gm's, and had the ability to "learn" long before gm computers did.

 however.....it IS fun argueing about these things. you'll never win, i'll never win, it'll just keep on keepin on

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #189 on: November 04, 2008, 09:40:31 PM »
Is the geezer in the background the guy that owns the stang?  If so, it figures.

i kinda think the new stangs, challengers, and camaros are aimed at us "geezers".
if they were aimed at kids, they'd have made some new groovy cool style, with no performance whatsoever.
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #190 on: November 04, 2008, 09:43:30 PM »
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however.....it IS fun argueing about these things. you'll never win, i'll never win, it'll just keep on keepin on

Of course you'll never win. Everybody knows mopars are the best.  :)
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #191 on: November 04, 2008, 09:46:55 PM »
i kinda think the new stangs, challengers, and camaros are aimed at us "geezers".
if they were aimed at kids, they'd have made some new groovy cool style, with no performance whatsoever.
 :rofl
Nope.  Just that by the time you've put away enough to afford one....

What's the deal with all the old, fat, bald dudes driving around in Vettes?

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #192 on: November 04, 2008, 09:47:38 PM »
Of course you'll never win. Everybody knows mopars are the best.  :)

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<has a 97 dodge dakota 5.2L 5 speed, 3.73 posi rear. all stock so far.......i'll probably cam it, and do the rest of the usual bolt ons soon.....injectors, intake, headers, etc......i just don't think it;ll do as well as the same things did on my mustang.

 i beat all of my cars equally.   :rofl

almost done the interior on the airmont from hell.....i need to make a new dash this winter, then she should be ready for the street in the spring. can't wait to hammer some rice burners, and camaros with that big ugly beast.....some mopars too..... :rofl :aok
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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #193 on: November 04, 2008, 09:48:29 PM »
Nope.  Just that by the time you've put away enough to afford one....

What's the deal with all the old, fat, bald dudes driving around in Vettes?

they're compensating.

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Re: Automobile magazine says of the new Camaro...
« Reply #194 on: November 04, 2008, 11:39:49 PM »
At 41 I hardly call myself a "geezer".  But then again I've been a die-hard, and I do mean die-hard fan of the f-body since I was 10.  I like Corvettes, and will get one one day, but they seem more like race cars for the street to me whereas the F-bodys, Mustangs, Challengers, Barracudas, and Cougars were more like really cool cars.
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