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Offline Saxman

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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2008, 07:45:14 AM »
The question I'd have is were they supplied WITH AP rounds, or did they scrounge them up somewhere?

However if there's evidence the B-25G/H used AP rounds then we SHOULD have it in-game.

It ALSO sounds like it didn't matter if the shell was AP or not. Granted he's not saying if this is two shots in one pass, but the shaped HE charges were more than enough to knock out a Panzer, and probably not by having to put one up his tailpipe at 200yds. The B-25's cannon should be more effective against armored vehicles in the game than it is (now ain't THAT a scary thought).
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Re: Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2008, 10:44:39 AM »
Quote from: moot on October 16, 2008, 05:05:10 AM
Does the book mention which tanks those were, more specificaly?

Unfortunately no it doesn't, it was chance that I happened across the passage when I got the book the other day, I would be surprised even if the  a panzer model was mentioned whether his recollection of events would be accurate, what with traveling 200-300mph and people shooting at him, and the passage of 40-50 years. :) You could probably make an educated assumption if you looked at the entry date into service for the B-25H and look at what tanks were operating in Italy at the time.  But that's about as close as I think you're going to get.   I would think that the Panzer IV would be the most numerous tank in service for Germany at the time, but that's little more than a blind guess, I'm largely ignorant when it comes to service dates of most german tanks. 
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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2008, 11:45:13 AM »
I hammered several of those into a Tiger yesterday with no results.
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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2008, 05:12:49 PM »
Quote from: Angus on October 16, 2008, 11:45:13 AM
I hammered several of those into a Tiger yesterday with no results.
look at the film... helps.
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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2008, 05:29:03 PM »
I took a look at the film and I'll have to give it a try.  My problem is I don't think I'm a good enough shot to line up the target, pull the trigger, then pull up before I plow into the ground. :)
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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2008, 06:30:28 PM »
Thats always been my problem, i always plow into the ground on pullout, or scrape the ground and ram the target.


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Re: Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2008, 06:35:28 PM »
Hammerheading with separate engine throttling helps...
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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2008, 07:52:40 PM »
Well I'm inspired, if anyone's looking for an easy kill there will probably be a B-25 lumbering around the MA's tonight looking for GV's to shoot. :)

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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2008, 08:11:31 AM »
Quote from: Soulyss on October 16, 2008, 07:52:40 PM
Well I'm inspired, if anyone's looking for an easy kill there will probably be a B-25 lumbering around the MA's tonight looking for GV's to shoot. :)


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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2008, 10:36:37 AM »
Spent last night in the MW, and there was actually little chance to up the lumbering artillery piece.  Had some decent scuffles in my poor beat-up and battered P-38, only ran into a wirlbe at the end of the night, but he blew up nicely. :)

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Re: Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2008, 12:13:25 PM »
Quote from: moot on October 16, 2008, 06:35:28 PM
Hammerheading with separate engine throttling helps...

Agreed, I was messing around very recently practising this (I mapped three buttons on my joystick to control which engines are selected) and when I looked at the film, I was very surprised by how tightly I could reverse course that way :D

Later that sortie I got an assist on a 109K4 :D :D
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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2008, 05:34:09 PM »
If we ever got AP for the pumpkin chucker HTC would almost HAVE to perk her. Right now the only thing keeping her from being the top-dog premier anti-tank platform in the game is the fact you have to make some real trick shots at point-blank range to cause damage (granted, the information in the original post suggests our HE rounds are far less effective than they SHOULD be). Imagine the whines if the 25H was able to pick off tanks from over 1000yds out!

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Re: Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2008, 06:38:47 PM »
I'm not sure, but I think 1000y kills are actualy very doable.  I think I remember me and kappa killing some flaks or panzers from around GV icon range.  I'm pretty sure that if it's possible (the shell is still lethal at that range), it's a rare sight because it requires just so much precision (or luck).
.. Now that I really dig for the memory, I'm pretty sure I specificaly remember the sight of us setting up our shots so we'd fire em and pull out just as the flaks started firing.
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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2008, 08:43:51 PM »
the only thing the b25 with armor piercing shells can do is knock out the turets of flack guns
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Re: B-25H and the use of AP ammo
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2008, 09:27:44 PM »
Quote from: splitatom on October 17, 2008, 08:43:51 PM
the only thing the b25 with armor piercing shells can do is knock out the turets of flack guns
lol maybe that's all you can do.
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