M4 armor wtf

[Anaxogoras]

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jn15hlzr0d0

Watch this film from the perspective of psbryguy.  I didn't have object detail set high enough so that you can see him from my perspective in the film (shift-f4 works just fine in the game).  Apparently, from 1900 yards a panzer cannot penetrate the armor of the M4.  

[SectorNine50]

Isn't 1900 yards a really, really long ways...?

[glock89]

Isn't 1900 yards a really, really long ways...?

Ya it is.

[Motherland]

Isn't 1900 yards a really, really long ways...?

Over a mile, but usually a couple of hits will take out a tank at that range.

I think I heard someone say 'yeah I hit him a bunch of times but nothing happened' so I think it's just that occasionally-occurring indestructible tank bug.

[BaldEagl]

I hit a Panzer with a Panzer 16 times last weekend without killing him.  Finally an aircraft bombed him and I got the kill.  It was at long range though.

I also hit a Tiger point blank three times with a Panzer a few nights ago without the kill.

I know where to hit GV's so that's not the problem.  It seems like the Panzer got borked somehow.

[Anaxogoras]

Armor was supposed to be a weakness of the M4.  A panzer would have been long dead in this same situation.

[Bronk]

I suggest you look at where you hit and the angle you hit at.

[Anaxogoras]

I suggest you look at where you hit and the angle you hit at.

I hit him on the turret and on the front armor where it meets the turret.  The angle is probably 20 degrees off of head-on.

What amazes me is not that the individual shots were ineffective, but that none of them were.  Again, armor was supposed to be the weakness of the M4, and yet in our game it's extremely well armored and only costs 6 perks.

[Anaxogoras]

I know where to hit GV's so that's not the problem.  It seems like the Panzer got borked somehow.

True.  Maybe it's the Panzer's gun and not the M4 that's the problem.
 

[Becinhu]

The m4 is a pain at times. I have hit them multiple times with every other tank and had them shrug the hits and then get the good ol' 1 shot to the face. But I also had to hit a t34/85 8 times with my t34/85 before killing it last night. I popped the turret from less than 50 yards with the first shot from the front. 3 of next for were shruggd off and 1 was a richocet. Sixth shot tracked him. Seventh was a richocet. On the eighth I drove around to the side and put a HVAP through the top of the engine block and he popped (he was tilted toward me).

[E25280]

I hit him on the turret and on the front armor where it meets the turret.  The angle is probably 20 degrees off of head-on.

What amazes me is not that the individual shots were ineffective, but that none of them were.  Again, armor was supposed to be the weakness of the M4, and yet in our game it's extremely well armored and only costs 6 perks.

I guess if the Sherman's armor was a weakness, you will agree that the weakness of the T-34 was also it's armor?

[Bronk]

I guess if the Sherman's armor was a weakness, you will agree that the weakness of the T-34 was also it's armor?

Shhh he's ranti.... rolling.

[Anaxogoras]

I guess if the Sherman's armor was a weakness, you will agree that the weakness of the T-34 was also it's armor?

Why would I agree to that?  What does one have to do with the other?

[SmokinLoon]

Armor does work sometimes, ya know.  LOTS of factors go into the hit, not just the armor thickness and projectile attributes.  Angle of armor to projectile impact (deflection)?  Projectile energy (penetration capability)?  Etc.

Regardless if you hit a tank once or twenty times... its armor can work like it should.   

[Chalenge]

Change aim points slightly and you will 'eventually' find a penetration point.