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Offline Curlew

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Civil Rights and Liberties
« on: October 22, 2008, 09:59:44 PM »
To keep in theme with several of the recent threads I would like to see how much you all know about your rights and liberties as a citizen in the USA. I just studied my oscar off for my midterm on this, lets see what you can come up with, and dont give me the name, tell me what and why and limitations to it, and even your opinion on it.

With a little bit of posting this could get interesting  :salute
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Re: Civil Rights and Liberties
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2008, 10:28:13 PM »
By name do you mean the particular amendment to the Bill of Rights?

We have many "Rights" on paper that don't seem to apply in practice in this day and age, such as "free speech zones".

I suspect that these zones will be implemented during the the next administration and we may have a whole new group of dissenters.

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Re: Civil Rights and Liberties
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 03:22:33 AM »
Yes, your rights and liberties as gaurenteed by the consititution and bill of rights.
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Re: Civil Rights and Liberties
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 05:24:16 AM »
 :noid You're not guaranteed anything. It's all a matter of circumstance. The government can suspend what we think are rights whenever they deem it necessary. i.e. (extreme case) Marshall Law.

This is a servere misinterpretation to think that we have rights. What we have are privileges. Big difference. :noid

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 07:51:18 AM »
My favorite rights are negative rights, i.e. the ones that say the government can't do this or that. :aok
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Re: Civil Rights and Liberties
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2008, 01:49:31 PM »
My Father always said:

'You only have rights that other people allow you to have'.

That's the sum of it really.

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2008, 01:53:10 PM »
I have the right to whatever I want without having to work for any of it.  Anything less just wouldn't be fair!

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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2008, 03:10:35 PM »
My favorite rights are negative rights, i.e. the ones that say the government can't do this or that. :aok

IE Civil libetries, restrictions on the goverment
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Re: Civil Rights and Liberties
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2008, 07:13:19 PM »
The underlying issue is the interpretation of any single "right". I'll give 2 examples...

1) The right to vote
2) The right to bear arms

The 1st has been dramatically expanded from the original intent of the constitution and the 2nd seriously curtailed.

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Re: Civil Rights and Liberties
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2008, 09:36:08 PM »
The underlying issue is the interpretation of any single "right". I'll give 2 examples...

1) The right to vote
2) The right to bear arms

The 1st has been dramatically expanded from the original intent of the constitution and the 2nd seriously curtailed.

There is no right to vote... they can take it away from you but they dont ever give it to you. If you think there is a right to vote then show me where it says you have that right.
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2008, 10:48:37 PM »
There is only ONE "right" that makes much sense to me...the right to do whatever hell you want with yourself and your property and live unmolested, excepting you interfere with that right for others.

All the other "rights" worth having are more or less just extensions of that principle.

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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2008, 10:49:39 PM »
That would be 'liberty' which the courts keep treading on.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2008, 11:01:18 PM »
If I were going to take away peoples rights though, the one I would take away would be the right to utter the phrase "something ought/needs/has to be done about" or "There ought to be a law". Violators would be shot!

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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2008, 11:32:51 PM »
That would be a law prohibiting 'hate speech' and ... oh wait... isnt that a law now?  :confused:
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Re: Civil Rights and Liberties
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2008, 01:42:24 AM »
:noid You're not guaranteed anything. It's all a matter of circumstance. The government can suspend what we think are rights whenever they deem it necessary. i.e. (extreme case) Marshall Law.

This is a servere misinterpretation to think that we have rights. What we have are privileges. Big difference. :noid
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