All this talk about the crappy HE-111

[A8TOOL]

All this talk about this plane started to make me think it's something special...so i looked it up.

Conclusion: Waste of time. Useless to a point unless made specifically for the special events arena.
 
The A-26 Invader would be a more logical choice to enter the game




Specifications (He 111 H-6)

Data from Jane’s Fighting Aircraft of World War II [22]

General characteristics

    * Crew: 5 (pilot, navigator/bombardier, nose gunner, ventral gunner, dorsal gunner)
    * Length: 16.4 m (54 ft 6 in)
    * Wingspan: 22.5 m (74 ft 3 in)
    * Height: 3.9 m (13 ft 9 in)
    * Wing area: 86.5 m² (942 ft²)
    * Empty weight: 7,720 kg (17,000 lb)
    * Loaded weight: 12,030 kg (26,500 lb)
    * Max takeoff weight: 14,075 kg (31,000 lb)
    * Powerplant: 2× Jumo 211F-1 liquid-cooled inverted V-12, 986 kW (1,300 hp) each

Performance

    * Maximum speed: 400 km/h (250 mph)
    * Range: 2,800 km with max fuel (1,750 mi)
    * Service ceiling 8,390 m (27,500 ft)
    * Rate of climb: 20 minutes to 5,185 m (17,000 ft)
    * Wing loading: 137 kg/m² (28.1 lb/ft²)
    * Power/mass: .082 kW/kg (.049 hp/lb)

Armament

    * Guns:
          o up to seven 7.92 mm MG 15 or MG 81 machine guns, some of them replaced or augmented by
                + 1× 20 mm MG FF cannon (central nose mount or forward ventral position)
                + 1× 13 mm MG 131 machine gun (mounted dorsal and/or ventral rear positions)

    * Bombs:
          o up to 2,000 kg (4,409 lb) carried internally (eight 250 kg max), or:
          o up to 2,500 kg (5,512 lb) on two external racks

   
As far as I see the He-111 (and yes, I want it)
« on: October 04, 2008, 04:45:57 PM »
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Well, we all want the He-111, but rarely are we gonna use it. When they previewed the P-39, and before that, we were all flippin out and actin all happy and saying it's gonna own in MA and stuff.... Then it comes a long, and 60% of the community cries "WASTE!!11!!" And as much as I want the He-111, I think thats what is gonna happen.

So if you wish for it, dont start crying when it doesn't do what you want it to do.

[Wyld45]

                          I liked the one in "Warbirds"04,(updated). It had this great cockpit view
               that reminded me of the "M-Falcon" window view. Wasnt a bad flyer either.

[Steve]

You are right that the MA will not be a place for the HE111.  You are also right that it would be great for scenarios.  For this reason, I'd like to see the HE111 in game. I'm with you on the a26 too though.. I think it will be a fun plane in the set.

[bobtom]

He-111 would be great for scenarios, and the green arena. I hate uber rides so I might even fly it in the blue/orange arenas. 

[glock89]

Love to see them both to be added.

[Guppy35]

Someone say Beaufighter?

40-45 service.  ETO, MTO, North Africa, Malta, CBI, PTO.  4 20mm, 6 303s (4 50 cals on the Aussie Mk 21)  provisions for rockets, bombs and a torpedo.  All kinds of scenario and MA use.

And it looks tough too

[glock89]

Me-410? Or the Hs-129 with the option of adding the Pak 40. 

[Guppy35]

Slow, lousy engines, hunk a junk

[choppit]

Armament

    * Guns:
          o up to seven 7.92 mm MG 15 or MG 81 machine guns, some of them replaced or augmented by
                + 1× 20 mm MG FF cannon (central nose mount or forward ventral position)
                + 1× 13 mm MG 131 machine gun (mounted dorsal and/or ventral rear positions)

I can shoot down planes easily in an 88, and it has 4 7.62 guns. Albeit yes it is a weak armament, but it's just like the 8 .303s on a Spit I / Hurricane I. The other guns fill the extreme gaps in the 88's defensive coverage. Primarily at the the sides. Also, just one 13mm gun makes the 111 more defend-able than the 88, just because it is a heavier gun.

[glock89]

Slow, lousy engines, hunk a junk

Oh well the Ju-88P.

[Rich46yo]

I actually saw some JU-88s tonight that weren't torpedo and bail tardmobiles. We slaughtered them before they even got close to the target. In fact I dont think Ive ever seen JU-88s actually make it to the target when fighters are at their Alt. They are the easiest things in the world to shoot down.

In a formation they look pretty cool. And I admit I like the way they fly and handle. But do we really need the early war bomber they replaced?

Especially since we dont have a Russian level bomber yet. If we got the TU-2 , AND , another perk bomber like the A-26 I'd be in hog heaven. I'd love to see the TU-2 in the game.

[Anaxogoras]

Silly arms race mentality.   Meanwhile we're running the BoB without it's most iconic aircraft.

[Karnak]

Silly arms race mentality.   Meanwhile we're running the BoB without it's most iconic aircraft.

No Spitfire?

[Wedge1126]

I'm not sure why people that want only the "latest and greatest" aircraft choose to play a game that has only antiquated WW2 aircraft. As for me, I want all aircraft. The more the better. If it's a real aircraft, I want it in game. Hell, I won't even say no to modern aircraft(properly perked, of course: 9999999999999999999999) or the Wright Flyer (Negative perks?  ).

[SIK1]

No Spitfire?

  Karnak I nearly busted a gut when I read your responce.