omg steve lookie I can make the 51 sing kinda !

[moot]

I've turnfought 2 La7's OTD, I scraped water a couple of times doing less than 100 Indicated. 

That's so addictive 

[sntslilhlpr6601]

i see this posted allot lately but, i just don't see it in game, f4u, certainly does not have the slow turning ability of a zeke, i fight them all the time, and they are quite easy to kill, unless the stick really knows how to fly them, but that goes for every plane in AH.

The zeke analogy is a bit of an exaggeration, as are the cries about it being terribly overmodeled, imo.

They are easy to kill only if you know to switch to energy tactics once they drop flaps.

[BnZs]

"Possible" and "Easy" are two different things.

The zeke analogy is a bit of an exaggeration, as are the cries about it being terribly overmodeled, imo.

They are easy to kill only if you know to switch to energy tactics once they drop flaps.

[Masherbrum]

^_^ killing newbies in La-7s aren't rly fighting !

I've gotten you within 5 seconds in "your l337 190" while in a "POS Ki-61".   They weren't newbies, but hey hijack away!   

I don't see you turning the Dora (and I'm not talking two complete turns, I'm talking more), keep picking.

[BnZs]

How do you make the Ta-152 counter the turn rate and radius advantage of the La-7 in horizontal fighting? I need to know these things darn it.   

[Masherbrum]

How do you make the Ta-152 counter the turn rate and radius advantage of the La-7 in horizontal fighting? I need to know these things darn it.   

Neither one were paying attention to their speed.   I went 1/2 throttle and 1 notch of flaps, it's a decent turner.    Going into the 2 on 1, I had resigned myself to "as good as shot down."   

[Anaxogoras]

The zeke analogy is a bit of an exaggeration, as are the cries about it being terribly overmodeled, imo.

They are easy to kill only if you know to switch to energy tactics once they drop flaps.

You and ink are approaching this from opposite sides.  He thinks they're easy to kill because they try to turn with his HurriIIc.  You go the opposite way and BnZ them to death when they get slow because your ride, whatever it is, can't turn with them like a Hurri.

[Masherbrum]

The zeke analogy is a bit of an exaggeration, as are the cries about it being terribly overmodeled, imo.

They are easy to kill only if you know to switch to energy tactics once they drop flaps.

Hogs are the easiest kills for me regardless of "what the other person does".   Lag pursuit does wonders.   Never seen your handle in game and would be more than happy to roll a Ki-61 against your Hog.   (I'm assuming the "They" in your quote is directed at "Hogs")

[Widewing]

Recently, I took an A-20 up to 15,000 feet to intercept a raid into a V-base. As I arrived there, a friendly in a P-51 told me that a pair of Doras were headed my way (radar was down and I saw them only as distant dots). As we closed, both nosed over and dived underneath my Havoc. Before we actually passed, I executed a reverse into a lead turn. They didn't reverse as I rolled in 600 yards astern. I pursued hoping to goad them into a fight. Instead, they ran off and never returned.  

I went back to the V-base, killed the high alt fighters and dropped down for the low stuff.

I'll never understand why two pilots in late-war fighters with a big performance advantage (75 mph faster) would flee from what is little more than a medium bomber. They had much more E and could have easily converted into the vertical.  


My regards,

Widewing

[BaldEagl]

I'm beginning to hate F4U's.  They are the uber plane of the game.  My only two deaths last night both came from F4U's (well... almost).

The first was actually a good fun one on one with me in an F6F until the guys squaddie intervened and killed me but I don't think I'd have won either way.

The second was with me in my Spit.  I made the mistake of slowing down to turn fight the guy after killing two of his buddies.  I wobbled, and had to unload which put him on my six but again, I don't think I could turn with him anyway.

As to the flying bricks and Ponies I had a really fun nose low rolling scissors fight last night in a 109A8 against a P-51D.  The A8 is actually quite agile in a nose low attitude with speed.  The Pony broke off after several turns and left the area.  I was hoping for a conclusion to that fight but no such luck.

[Boozeman]

How do you make the Ta-152 counter the turn rate and radius advantage of the La-7 in horizontal fighting? I need to know these things darn it.   

Actually if you dont load the 152 with ridiculous amounts of fuel, (50% percent still yields you much more flightime than 100% in the La7) the La7 does not have a turn rate advantage, just the turn radius advantage. This makes turnfighting the 2 indeed intresting.

[Steve]

Hogs are the easiest kills for me regardless of "what the other person does".   Lag pursuit does wonders.   Never seen your handle in game and would be more than happy to roll a Ki-61 against your Hog.   (I'm assuming the "They" in your quote is directed at "Hogs")

Feeling good huh? I'd like to see that ki61 against mtnman or saber, comparable E states to start.

[Masherbrum]

Feeling good huh? I'd like to see that ki61 against mtnman or saber, comparable E states to start.

The Ki-61 is a "POS" Steve, didn't you know that?   On top of that, I've fought those two and they were all great fights.   Anything else?

[Steve]

The Ki-61 is a "POS" Steve, didn't you know that?   On top of that, I've fought those two and they were all great fights.   Anything else?

Ya, did you kill them  regardless of what they did?  Comparable starting E states. You are beginning to sound like a person who feels he cannot be beat by anyone.

[Yenny]

I've gotten you within 5 seconds in "your l337 190" while in a "POS Ki-61".   They weren't newbies, but hey hijack away!   

I don't see you turning the Dora (and I'm not talking two complete turns, I'm talking more), keep picking.

hehe 5 secs huh? picking me while I'm ontop of the loops in the rolling scissors vs 2 spit 5 in a 152 doesn't count as fighting. It's true I usually try not to tnb Dora, I do sometime when I'm bored but usually I don't do it.