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Offline wrag

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You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« on: November 16, 2008, 09:40:21 PM »
This is probably the BEST article on the reason given AGAINST owning a firearm that I've seen so far.

Covers some interesting points on arguments against.

Hope you find it interesting and worthy of comment.

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/ragingagainstselfdefense.htm


OOPS need to add this?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56494
« Last Edit: November 16, 2008, 09:47:51 PM by wrag »
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 10:06:46 PM »
That reminds me, I need to send in my NRA form and get my FREE rosewood knife!
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 03:09:10 AM »
I don't own a hand gun, my choice. I have no problem with those that do. Frankly I have never been confronted by an anti gun promoter. I really don't think there is that many anti-gun enthusiast.

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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 03:35:11 AM »
I don't own a hand gun, my choice. I have no problem with those that do. Frankly I have never been confronted by an anti gun promoter. I really don't think there is that many anti-gun enthusiast.

Perhaps you've not been in the correct area of our nation to meet them?

I've seen and heard a few!
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 06:56:54 AM »
I used to get it all the time when I worked in Detroit. I tried to get my side across but was allways shouted down. I know this sound strange, but there point of view is if the gun "looks" bad then it is. In part of the building the agents could not carry there service weapons because they scared the other government workers. That's right scared them, having the weapons in the holsters with the handcuffs and all the federal agents scared them, but the renta-cops that were for local security were OK. I finaly just gave up.
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 07:40:36 AM »
I found this interesting and actually pretty true:

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(3) Gun owners are frequently the targets of professional victims because gun owners are willing and able to prevent their own victimization.
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 07:49:25 AM »
hmm the topics a bit misleading - should be "Just another right-wing rant" :rolleyes:
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 07:56:27 AM »
hmm the topics a bit misleading - should be "Just another right-wing rant" :rolleyes:

Spoken like a true victim. If ANYONE can give me a logical, factual, reason why I shouldn't own any firearm I choose to use in whatever legal manner I choose to use it in, then I will give up all my weapons. Luckily for me, the only aurgument the anti gunners can give me are ALL based on emontional victim mentality and for me that's not going to get me to give up my guns.
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 08:59:03 AM »
:rofl

not sure exactly how being able to tell the difference between polemic and reasoned argument makes me a victim :huh  if it had been a link to an article on how conservatism is a mental disorder, I would have called on the left-wing rant.
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 09:18:12 AM »
I don't think it's the self defense and all that people are raging about, it's the fact that we won't be able to go hunting any more.
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 09:21:19 AM »
That artical had nothing to do with right or left wing anything. It was actually pretty well written. I've had plenty of dealings with anti gun nuts and everything that artical spoke of is accurate as to how they perceive things.

They DO walk around with a victim mentality

They DO attribute firearms as being dangerous in and of themselves

They DO have an irrational fear of firearms based on looks (assault weapons, black guns, looks military, ext)

Most importantly they DO LACK the knowledge needed to make an INFORMED opinion, yet they want to impose their opinions on everyone else based on NOTHING but their emotional fears and hangups.

Victims aren't satisfied until everyone is as much a victim as they see themselves to be. That I would CHOOSE to arm myself and not be a victim scares them. How DARE I take a messure of control that they can't do for themselves and make them feel inferior for doing so.

Again it's not about left or right. It's about strength and weakness. The weak will always try to take from the strong through rules and laws so in the end they don't feel so weak.
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 09:43:58 AM »
I currently do not own a gun.  When I have the money I'll get a shotgun for home defense and that's all I'll need.
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2008, 09:50:56 AM »
Most importantly they DO LACK the knowledge needed to make an INFORMED opinion, yet they want to impose their opinions on everyone else based on NOTHING but their emotional fears and hangups.

This was plainly evident when the VP had his hunting accident. The number of people in this country who had no idea what a shotgun was, what bird shot was, and how you could get accidentally peppered when shooting in the brush was an eye-opener for me.
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2008, 10:07:50 AM »
Unfortunately the people that make laws in this country are also MASTERS of 'projection' and use it to further their agendas and to satisfy their need to manipulate people in order to attain power.

I hope I didnt cross the line on political ban but its the truth.
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Re: You don't NEED a gun simplified.
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2008, 10:23:16 AM »
Protect yourself..... there is no one else to do it. If you put yourself in the position of not being able to protect yourself, then you are the victim the criminals look for.

For those that think the Police are there to protect you, think again. The Police are there to help keep order and will show up after a crime has been committed to investigate.
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