players with crap connections

[thndregg]

Dialup + AH is fine.

I have ~ 22 years experience in IT. Starting on CPM through to DOS6.22 through to all these lovely flavours of Windows and a few other OS's through. For the last 10 years I've specialised in networking (and network security), I'm trained and have qualifications from the likes of Cisco, Juniper, 3Com, Secure Computing, Allied Telesis, Allot, Sonicwall and a few others I forget.

Trafficwise AH uses ~20kbps, dialup bandwidth is more than enough to handle it. Dialup latency is sometimes better than some peoples cable and DSL connections. Dialup is a non-contending media as well, so some of the hassled of contending media like cable aren't there.

So as I said, dialup + AH is fine.

  That's it, go git 'em.

[Yenny]

I had pretty good PC for gaming. A 2.6ghz Quad, 4 gigs ram, 2x 8800 GTS 640MB vid card, and its OS is Vista 64. It works fine w/ every game I play. I just bough a new laptop for gaming when I'm on the road. It's a duo core 2.6 Ghz, 512MB 8800M GTS, 4 gig ram, and OS vista 64. However, it doesn't run as smooth as my PC of course. I had huge problem w/ warping and lagging in AHII and other games right away. I asked peeps for help and such. Even though I only had AHII running, the processor was processing 81 programs O.o.

I'm trying to tweak it out now and hopefully that would solve the lag issue.

Here it is:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01490775&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3747924&lang=en

[Matrix]

TY Shawk for this thread.  I experience this too and it is very frustrating.  I usually start rolling film and send it to Skuzzy and get the internet explanation.  I can understand that the internet effects our game play but too often when the same names do it I start to question the players integrity (maybe unfairly).  I have for the longest wondered why there is not a failsafe put in place like you described....seems doable IMO. Maybe create an arena just for those high ping times?  That way they can warp just with eachother.    If I knew where to upload films I'd post them for others to view and would like to be able to see what other players experience as well. 

[moot]

It's not the ping times.

[Vulcan]

Righto, it just so happens I had a good play online last night. So here's some nice hard data for those out there who think they know better.

Below is data captured from my firewall at home. From 9pm onwards (NZDST) you can see me playing AH through to Midnight - as you can tell the total average bandwidth from the server to me is 15kbps and from me to the server is a whopping 5kbps. Shortly after midnight a scheduled download I have kicks in (note the increase to 3000kbps download speeds), at 1am I exceed my daily bandwidth with my ISP and get bandwidth throttled (note the speed decrease to 64kbps). My ISP rolls over the daily allowance at 2am and 6pm daily.

So, for my play in the MA last night AH needed 15kbps of download bandwidth, ie, ~ 1/3rd of average dialup speed.

Port 1 (WAN (WAN)) on tz190w (192.168.5.1)       Bandwidth Traffic IN   Bandwidth Traffic OUT   Sum    kbit/second   kbit/second   kbit/second 2/12/2008 2:00 a.m. - 2:05 a.m.   0.028   0.018   0.046 2/12/2008 1:55 a.m. - 2:00 a.m.   0.602   0.05   0.652 2/12/2008 1:50 a.m. - 1:55 a.m.   63.278   2.556   65.834 2/12/2008 1:45 a.m. - 1:50 a.m.   63.444   2.532   65.976 2/12/2008 1:40 a.m. - 1:45 a.m.   63.37   2.599   65.969 2/12/2008 1:35 a.m. - 1:40 a.m.   63.19   2.618   65.808 2/12/2008 1:30 a.m. - 1:35 a.m.   63.547   2.559   66.106 2/12/2008 1:25 a.m. - 1:30 a.m.   64.422   2.625   67.047 2/12/2008 1:20 a.m. - 1:25 a.m.   63.895   2.627   66.522 2/12/2008 1:15 a.m. - 1:20 a.m.   63.773   2.569   66.342 2/12/2008 1:10 a.m. - 1:15 a.m.   63.93   2.874   66.804 2/12/2008 1:05 a.m. - 1:10 a.m.   63.476   2.536   66.013 2/12/2008 1:00 a.m. - 1:05 a.m.   64.015   2.578   66.593 2/12/2008 12:55 a.m. - 1:00 a.m.   143.942   4.698   148.64 2/12/2008 12:50 a.m. - 12:55 a.m.   3,206.03   82.275   3,288.31 2/12/2008 12:45 a.m. - 12:50 a.m.   3,077.44   79.431   3,156.87 2/12/2008 12:40 a.m. - 12:45 a.m.   3,126.02   79.917   3,205.93 2/12/2008 12:35 a.m. - 12:40 a.m.   2,983.32   77.218   3,060.54 2/12/2008 12:30 a.m. - 12:35 a.m.   3,174.17   81.618   3,255.79 2/12/2008 12:25 a.m. - 12:30 a.m.   2,888.89   75.558   2,964.45 2/12/2008 12:20 a.m. - 12:25 a.m.   2,586.18   67.535   2,653.72 2/12/2008 12:15 a.m. - 12:20 a.m.   2,903.10   75.189   2,978.29 2/12/2008 12:10 a.m. - 12:15 a.m.   3,051.58   78.29   3,129.87 2/12/2008 12:05 a.m. - 12:10 a.m.   636.709   19.542   656.251 2/12/2008 12:00 a.m. - 12:05 a.m.   16.397   5.697   22.094 1/12/2008 11:55 p.m. - 12:00 a.m.   17.282   5.704   22.986 1/12/2008 11:50 p.m. - 11:55 p.m.   15.432   5.677   21.108 1/12/2008 11:45 p.m. - 11:50 p.m.   15.31   5.688   20.999 1/12/2008 11:40 p.m. - 11:45 p.m.   17.129   5.805   22.934 1/12/2008 11:35 p.m. - 11:40 p.m.   15.249   5.783   21.031 1/12/2008 11:30 p.m. - 11:35 p.m.   16.776   5.739   22.515 1/12/2008 11:25 p.m. - 11:30 p.m.   16.42   5.866   22.286 1/12/2008 11:20 p.m. - 11:25 p.m.   15.3   5.765   21.065 1/12/2008 11:15 p.m. - 11:20 p.m.   15.129   5.686   20.815 1/12/2008 11:10 p.m. - 11:15 p.m.   17.656   6.041   23.696 1/12/2008 11:05 p.m. - 11:10 p.m.   16.252   5.681   21.933 1/12/2008 11:00 p.m. - 11:05 p.m.   15.792   5.688   21.479 1/12/2008 10:55 p.m. - 11:00 p.m.   15.368   5.727   21.095 1/12/2008 10:50 p.m. - 10:55 p.m.   15.112   5.693   20.805 1/12/2008 10:45 p.m. - 10:50 p.m.   15.673   5.761   21.434 1/12/2008 10:40 p.m. - 10:45 p.m.   17.605   5.817   23.422 1/12/2008 10:35 p.m. - 10:40 p.m.   16.719   5.794   22.513 1/12/2008 10:30 p.m. - 10:35 p.m.   16.063   5.847   21.909 1/12/2008 10:25 p.m. - 10:30 p.m.   60   6.955   66.955 1/12/2008 10:20 p.m. - 10:25 p.m.   27.796   6.917   34.714 1/12/2008 10:15 p.m. - 10:20 p.m.   15.988   5.695   21.684 1/12/2008 10:10 p.m. - 10:15 p.m.   18.22   5.996   24.216 1/12/2008 10:05 p.m. - 10:10 p.m.   15.765   5.673   21.439 1/12/2008 10:00 p.m. - 10:05 p.m.   15.224   5.697   20.921 1/12/2008 9:55 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.   16.606   5.671   22.278 1/12/2008 9:50 p.m. - 9:55 p.m.   18.225   5.66   23.884 1/12/2008 9:45 p.m. - 9:50 p.m.   17.028   5.617   22.645 1/12/2008 9:40 p.m. - 9:45 p.m.   16.636   5.63   22.267 1/12/2008 9:35 p.m. - 9:40 p.m.   17.152   5.67   22.823 1/12/2008 9:30 p.m. - 9:35 p.m.   15.398   5.67   21.068 1/12/2008 9:25 p.m. - 9:30 p.m.   15.648   5.869   21.517 1/12/2008 9:20 p.m. - 9:25 p.m.   15.372   5.693   21.064 1/12/2008 9:15 p.m. - 9:20 p.m.   15.816   5.648   21.464 1/12/2008 9:10 p.m. - 9:15 p.m.   18.378   10.886   29.264 1/12/2008 9:05 p.m. - 9:10 p.m.   15.522   5.638   21.161 1/12/2008 9:00 p.m. - 9:05 p.m.   10.627   3.771   14.398 1/12/2008 8:55 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.   15.637   3.301   18.938 1/12/2008 8:50 p.m. - 8:55 p.m.   18.232   7.063   25.295

[BigPlay]

Guido77 is by far the warpyest player Iv ever seen in AH. Not once have I seen him when he isn't warping. From 6k to 200ft he warps just as bad. I seen him many times warp from someones gunsight to their six and shot them. People with these connections should be booted no matter the excuse.

  I was behind his lancs one day and he warped backwards into me and killed me. I think most of the time it's background programs running while their logged It  really affects my framerate . I try and now turn off everything when I log on. I can't tell you how many times my email screen popped up right in the middle of a fight to tell me I had a new email. 

Guido's problem is connection. For those of you who have experienced warping then you know it's just as bad for you as it is for them.

[grizz441]

Guido's problem is connection. For those of you who have experienced warping then you know it's just as bad for you as it is for them.

Does this mean that you think it's even steven?  In a given night, a warper might seriously piss off 100 different people while being frustrated himself?  So by quitting, the warper might be upset since he can no longer fly the skies of AH like the USS Enterprise, but will save 100 people he comes in contact with a lot of frustration.  So lets do the math... 1 Pissed off Habitual Warper, 100 Content Pilots.  Do us a favor and quit (X3X< Guido) until you can actually play the game properly.

[bj229r]

In defense of honest dial-up players, I'm another one that was on dial-up for about 12 years. I always made sure I had a clean system and a steady connection. It was just within the last year that they finally strung DSL out to this part of sugar-beet & onion country. We couldn't afford satellite (and didn't want it for games anyway), so we just bided our time until Malheur Bell finally got off thier collective butt. Bj, I hope it gets better for ya'. 

Sob's ran cable to within 3/4 mile of my house...strange telephone pole configuration between there and here prevents further cable

[Yenny]

Here's a film I just recorded. Every sorty I've taken up w/ this new lap top is like this. It only happen in this game, this laptop handles CoD4, EQ2, WoW etc just fine, no lags at all. I just tested all of it out. My PC run every game fines include this. So I have no idea how to fix it=/

http://files.filefront.com/lagnwarpahf/;12526414;/fileinfo.html

[NoBaddy]

I have no idea how to fix it=/

The first step is to contact Skuzzy. 

[CAP1]

He once warped right from my gun sight and right on my tail and took off half my wing before warping back in front of me. I was lucky enough to have enough speed to run away and land. Iv also had time where he took out my oil and got hits on me in his warpy madness. When ever I fight him it seems he has no trouble at all getting hits on me but when I someone get on his six he warps all over the place. Only time I can get a hit on him is by spraying or Hoing him.

larry,
when next you;re on, switch sides, and fly with him. he warps almost constantly, and cannot control it. i've mentioned it to him several times, as i fly with him. he's not happy about it at all, but he does as best as he can.

[CAP1]

  I was behind his lancs one day and he warped backwards into me and killed me. I think most of the time it's background programs running while their logged It  really affects my framerate . I try and now turn off everything when I log on. I can't tell you how many times my email screen popped up right in the middle of a fight to tell me I had a new email. 

Guido's problem is connection. For those of you who have experienced warping then you know it's just as bad for you as it is for them.

so you rear-ended him"? whelp, that's your fault for following too close. 

[CAP1]

Does this mean that you think it's even steven?  In a given night, a warper might seriously piss off 100 different people while being frustrated himself?  So by quitting, the warper might be upset since he can no longer fly the skies of AH like the USS Enterprise, but will save 100 people he comes in contact with a lot of frustration.  So lets do the math... 1 Pissed off Habitual Warper, 100 Content Pilots.  Do us a favor and quit (X3X< Guido) until you can actually play the game properly.

guido flys MW. there's never more than 40 or 50 pile its in there at a time.


there is no more reason for him to quit than there is for people to stop trying to re-do the scoreing system. 

[palef]

X3X .................... I have always been polite when letting him or her know that they warping really bad.  Response was testy at best....

He's testy alright. He ripped me a new one via PM for bombing his tank and ruining his fun. Unfortunately for him, I was in a Panzer 4 300 yards to the left of him when he got bombed - and on his side.

Still, it takes all kinds.

[grizz441]

guido flys MW. there's never more than 40 or 50 pile its in there at a time.


there is no more reason for him to quit than there is for people to stop trying to re-do the scoreing system. 

Well I guess if he flies by himself in MW it's okay I suppose...

You keep making references to my scoring thread...haha, yeah the scoring system still sucks CAP1.