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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #75 on: December 01, 2008, 05:47:10 AM »
Anodizer don't worry about the good captain, he is one of the "I'm right your wrong,I've been playing for 15 years" blowhards on these boards and will argue with you until the end of time.
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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2008, 06:51:36 AM »
I had a hard drive going bad once . it caused me to warp all over the place . Everything else was exactly the same as now . I am by no means an expert but i think your system can cause warps . I also have a friend who lives very rural he tried to play with a dial up his only option . There were so many analog to digital switches that he could not get his ping to be anything like smooth or consistent . He warped so badly for his 2 week trial , that he just bagged the game until they fix the phone line in his area . He was on a party line just 3 years ago, so the phone line equipment is very out dated .

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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #77 on: December 01, 2008, 07:10:09 AM »

''That's unfortunate for him but it would have been nice & reasonable to stop playing under such circumstances until you have your problem resolved instead of just shrugging.''
You make it sound like he( i ) couldnt be bothered , and as for solving my problem what do you propose ? perhaps i should take over omantel and upgrade the service or perhaps i could just quit my job and move to a place with better telecoms !!
 Some people will have no choice as to who the provider they choose is , and if im willing to pay my $15 i will play , if the lagg gets bad i will logg off the game , lagg makes it unplayable from my end also .Unless Hitech tell me to go away because of lagg then  tough .... that might sound harsh but there it is  ,besides there a far worse things in game than a few people with internet problems  .
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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2008, 08:38:21 AM »
Do you constantly warp all over the place while playing expat? Cause there the guys im talking about a little skip warp here and there aint so bad its the trekkie warpys that get me mate. Them guys should not be allowed to play.

If it was so bad i cant see how it would be worth paying $15 a month for it until the problem was solved. I didnt play other top online games or even single player games because my system couldnt run them so you know what i did? i didnt buy them! then when i finnaly got the cash for a new system i went for it now i can play what i want without bothering myself or anyone else.

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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2008, 08:42:17 AM »
Anodizer don't worry about the good captain, he is one of the "I'm right your wrong,I've been playing for 15 years" blowhards on these boards and will argue with you until the end of time.

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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2008, 08:52:42 AM »
Now now guys...can't we just get along?  Hate seeing fellow SAPPers arguing :cry
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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2008, 08:55:44 AM »
Now now guys...can't we just get along?  Hate seeing fellow SAPPers arguing :cry

<<<<<<<<<<<isn't arguing.

on topic though, if someone warps in front of ya, then just leave, go find someone else to kill.

pretty easy, really.  :D
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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2008, 08:58:00 AM »
<<<<<<<<<<<isn't arguing.

on topic though, if someone warps in front of ya, then just leave, go find someone else to kill.

pretty easy, really.  :D

then maybe we should argue so we can fit in  :D


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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2008, 09:42:43 AM »
The computer i play games on is pretty out of date, and I've never had anyone complain of me warping. As far as I know, it all comes to down to internet. If you have processes running that suck internet juice, you might lag. Same as having a bad connection that causes dropped packets.

A high ping doesn't mean as much as a connection that doesn't drop packets left and right.

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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2008, 10:01:28 AM »
Utilizing the game with the frame rate of a photo album is not considered "played"...
Simply put, you're full of dog crap....   :lol
 
I have several systems in my home, among them a few PIII's...
Anything under a PIII 933mhz won't run it in any way worth playing...
 
PIII 600mhz with Geforce MX440 simply won't run it at any rate worth playing... 
My PIII 667mhZ even has a Geforce 4 Ti 4600 and I still can't get the game to play with anything better than
picture book type frame rates before the system locks up.... 

It's not a theory...  It's the truth... 
Now, stop being a troll  :)

That was the complete truth and I don't appreciate being called a liar.  I've still got that machine, it's still hooked up and still has AH installed.  Besides a PIII 600 and a 32 meg MX-440 it was running only 512 K PC100/133 SRAM and Win98.

That machine would normally run the game between 15-25 FPS (sometimes higher... 35 fps) except when there were massive bomber missions.  It would chug down to about 2-3 fps around multiple flights of bombers and about 5 FPS in those low hanging fog banks on SmPizza so those were situations I simply avoided.  Of course, I had to run graphic settings on low and use 512 textures without skins.

If you'd like proof come on over.  Evidently you just don't know how to keep a machine running at it's best.

BTW, Maybe you'd like to duel me while I'm on my old machine just to see how playable it is.  I'll even use my 13 year old MS joystick.
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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2008, 10:07:14 AM »
I'm wondering, should players with crap connects be able to just constantly warp around the arena?
I mean I can understand that sometimes the intardnet has some issues, but I can name a few guys
that warp EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE EM! Shouldn't there be a limit to packet loss before you get the boot?
Is it fair to allow these guys to warp from 1K in front of you to 1K behind you, then dissapear into the ground,
only to re-appear 5K away? Seriously, is this Aces High or Star Trek?
I dropped a bomb on a guy this morning, direct hit...nothing, so I turn around for another pass about 10 secs later BOOM he explodes. Of course he claims he's on Satellite and can do nothing about it.
Several others who I can name, do close to the same thing and everyone knows it.
X3X is the worst I've seen yet, but JoeBlack and NoFether hold close 2nds.
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I'm sure plenty of you have run across these guys and seen the same thing. :eek:

As long as the 15 bucks warps into HTC's bank account I don't see a problem.............
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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2008, 10:58:53 AM »
While warping can be frustrating, it's part of the internet gaming dynamic and needs to be accepted. 99% of people don't warp intentionally, and pointing out those with weak internet connections is a tad harsh.

Cable connection speed is affected at different times throughout the day depending on traffic, there's nothing we can do about it, and I don't expect anyone to be in favor of penalizing folks for something where they have no control.

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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2008, 12:03:54 PM »
....X3X is the worst I've seen yet,....


i find it highly strange that X3X warps  ONLY  when he is coming in to strafe me, but on the egress and circle around, he never warps, ???     and no i am not accusing.

i agree fully to a limit to packet loss, some of these things are getting way to bad....






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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #88 on: December 01, 2008, 12:12:26 PM »
Sorry, but there is.

Not playing.

Sounds harsh, but if someone isn't occasionally warping but each and every time, he is ruining the fun for everyone around him.

I remember one particular player in EW and MW that was constantly warping day in and day out. He could pork fields and take down towns with impunity because for him the ground and the objects aren't warping at all. It was almost impossible to attack him and to shoot him down because of all his warping, and even worse - you were in danger of dying from a warp-collision every time you tried. With only a few payers on and all fighting over one base it was impossible to just ignore him, especially if you are desperately trying to defend that base.

His standard answer was "I can't do anything about it" too.

That's unfortunate for him but it would have been nice & reasonable to stop playing under such circumstances until you have your problem resolved instead of just shrugging.


BTW, depending on source of warpiness it can indeed happen that you may warp to everybody else but are not seeing the same. Happened to me a short while ago, all seemed smooth on my end until several payers asked me to relog.

Yep, it's an exploit.. borderline cheating.
And like Estes (and others too, prolly) said, high ping doesnt matter so much as packet loss. Till 3 months ago I was playing from an island out in the indian ocean, whose connection to the rest of the world was thru a pipe that went all around the south and west of africa, to europe, before going anywhere else. 200ms bonus from that one hop and yet I never had much warping complaints in AH, which is remarkable considering that I was getting lots of em in other games like Il2 and LFS, even picking servers with lower ping rates by more than 100ms than AH's.

And at least some of the players always warping know about it. It's common courtesy not to ruin it for everyone else.. and playing with that much lag sucks anyway, so those players are either too dumb to care or doing it on purpose.
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Re: players with crap connections
« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2008, 12:12:35 PM »

i find it highly strange that X3X warps  ONLY  when he is coming in to strafe me, but on the egress and circle around, he never warps, ???     and no i am not accusing.

i agree fully to a limit to packet loss, some of these things are getting way to bad....






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ok...so he's straffing. he's near the ground now.....that has to be modeled, along with your gv, and it;s movement. now, he's shooting at you, you shooting back at him. now all the ammo blasting through the air has to be modeled, along with tracer rounds, and impact and damage, PLUS whatever other action is going on nearby.

 that could be enough to put his system over the edge.

or not....just my 2 cents
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