players with crap connections

[MaSonZ]

worst ive seen is zro, guido77 (both MW players) and X3X. got a film of zro warping because of his connection he claimed, but was fine until i got a solution....couldnt wait for a HO shot....

[Anodizer]

I played on a P-III 600 with an MX-440 until March of this year.  Never once did anyone complain about me warping.  So much for that theory.

Utilizing the game with the frame rate of a photo album is not considered "played"...
Simply put, you're full of dog crap....   
 
I have several systems in my home, among them a few PIII's...
Anything under a PIII 933mhz won't run it in any way worth playing...
 
PIII 600mhz with Geforce MX440 simply won't run it at any rate worth playing... 
My PIII 667mhZ even has a Geforce 4 Ti 4600 and I still can't get the game to play with anything better than
picture book type frame rates before the system locks up.... 

It's not a theory...  It's the truth... 
Now, stop being a troll 

[grizz441]

I think it's silly that all the people with slow computers or use dialup to play Aces High have come roaring to the defense of warpers everywhere.  The OP never said anything about what type of setup you have, pretty sure SHawk just called into question the players that warp heavily on a nightly basis. (They've already all been mostly named in this thread) Anyone who has flown against X3X would not be arguing against the OP here.

[mechanic]

i played on a wireless connection and 64mb card laptop for six months and whilst the graphics were terrible and i did get occasional screen freezes, the warping only happened once every hour or so and never more than a little jitter of a few hundred yards. The wireless aerial was at least 10 meters from my laptop and i could d/l pr0n in seconds still. 

[yanksfan]

I think it's silly that all the people with slow computers or use dialup to play Aces High have come roaring to the defense of warpers everywhere.  The OP never said anything about what type of setup you have, pretty sure SHawk just called into question the players that warp heavily on a nightly basis. (They've already all been mostly named in this thread) Anyone who has flown against X3X would not be arguing against the OP here.

The problem with bringing up the whole warp thing is that it is an internet problem, A bunch of people will bring up the names of others with conection problems (warping) others will chime in with all kinds of other nonsense from cbl pullers to server problems, then when Skuzzy has heard enough he'll pop in and say what he always says.

Then give it a little time and some one else will bring it all up again. Warping is going to be around no matter what, sometimes relogging helps but no one is warping intentionally.

This is a wasted thread. my point is that the OP knows better then to bring it up yet again.

[Anodizer]

I think it's silly that all the people with slow computers or use dialup to play Aces High have come roaring to the defense of warpers everywhere.  The OP never said anything about what type of setup you have, pretty sure SHawk just called into question the players that warp heavily on a nightly basis (They've already all been mostly named in this thread) Anyone who has flown against X3X would not be arguing against the OP here.

Agreed.

While I'm not dismissing the possibility that dial-up could be used to some success, the combination of dial-up AND a slow system playing the game at
a respectable level is absurd..
I do not understand the need to defend out-dated/obsolete technology.
Especially with exaggerated claims..

Admit you need a new system or to get off dial-up(or both) and be done with it....
Very soon, dial-up users will have no excuse (being in the middle of nowhere, etc) since broad-band over power lines is quickly arriving in many rural areas in the US.
Which actually sucks for us amateur radio operators..

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Utilizing the game with the frame rate of a photo album is not considered "played"...
Simply put, you're full of dog crap....   
 
I have several systems in my home, among them a few PIII's...
Anything under a PIII 933mhz won't run it in any way worth playing...
 
PIII 600mhz with Geforce MX440 simply won't run it at any rate worth playing... 
My PIII 667mhZ even has a Geforce 4 Ti 4600 and I still can't get the game to play with anything better than
picture book type frame rates before the system locks up.... 

It's not a theory...  It's the truth... 
Now, stop being a troll 

I played AHII on an AMD K6III 550 based rig with 512MB of RAM and a GeForce Ti AGP video card. Granted, I never got more than 60FPS at the absolute minimum settings (in a clear sky with no one around), and a scenario was out of the question, but I did play on that machine. That is a FACT. Just because YOU cannot make it work does not mean some one else cannot do it. I've always been a couple of years or more behind the curve when it comes owning computers, so I've spent the better part of a decade and a half tweaking and tuning, not to mention bargain hunting.

[mechanic]

Hey now, Shawk was just blindly wondering through the crowd muttering to himself whilst recovering from the weekend. We didnt have to take any notice of him!

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

The problem with bringing up the whole warp thing is that it is an internet problem, A bunch of people will bring up the names of others with conection problems (warping) others will chime in with all kinds of other nonsense from cbl pullers to server problems, then when Skuzzy has heard enough he'll pop in and say what he always says.

Then give it a little time and some one else will bring it all up again. Warping is going to be around no matter what, sometimes relogging helps but no one is warping intentionally.

This is a wasted thread. my point is that the OP knows better then to bring it up yet again.

This is a wasted thread in your opinion for whatever that is worth. Yes, the Internet causes warping. However, when the same player constantly warps, repeatedly, every time that player is logged on, and warps so bad as to be completely disruptive of game play, then there is a problem and the rest of the players are absolutely entitled to make a statement about the issue. It is also reasonable to request that HTC look into a solution. It's called customer service. It is a reasonable expectation to NOT be faced with what amounts to fighting an out of control ping pong ball. That level of warping should result in the warper being disconnected. If they cannot get a better connection, they need to look into other options. When my connection was that bad, I quit. It's called fair play.

[Anodizer]

I played AHII on an AMD K6III 550 based rig with 512MB of RAM and a GeForce Ti AGP video card. Granted, I never got more than 60FPS at the absolute minimum settings (in a clear sky with no one around), and a scenario was out of the question, but I did play on that machine. That is a FACT. Just because YOU cannot make it work does not mean some one else cannot do it. I've always been a couple of years or more behind the curve when it comes owning computers, so I've spent the better part of a decade and a half tweaking and tuning, not to mention bargain hunting.

And when did you do this?  Perhaps at a time when a 550mhz processor(or lower) may have been the minimum requirements.
I would say that this was probably several years ago...  Try doing it now

It has nothing to do with ME not making it work..  It has everything to do with reality..
Tweaking (especially on older systems trying to keep with with standards a generation or two ago) is pretty much meaningless....
All tweaking will do is enhance what you can already run (and not all that much better at that)..

At the end of the day, it's still a PIII, or an AMD K6II/III (no major differences between the two)....
It can only accomplish so much..  Playing AHII today is not one of them..

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

I played AHII with my old FIC PA2013/K6III 550 based rig LONG after it was WELL below the minimum requirements. I did not have warping issues either. I did have a lot of times where it was a slide show when the action got heavy. Hell, I even used the video card from it in the rig that replaced it because I couldn't justify spending the money on a new one.

You could SAY anything you like, what you KNOW is not necessarily what you THINK you KNOW. I did not keep up with the dates, I have no need to. I know I was using an old out of date rig long after it should have been replaced. Possibly ONCE in at least 15 YEARS have I had a rig even CLOSE to state of the art, and that was a couple of years ago.

[Spikes]

Well I admit I hate getting behind someone just for them to warp off and run away, but what if they can't afford a new computer or internet?

[Anodizer]

I played AHII with my old FIC PA2013/K6III 550 based rig LONG after it was WELL below the minimum requirements. I did not have warping issues either. I did have a lot of times where it was a slide show when the action got heavy. Hell, I even used the video card from it in the rig that replaced it because I couldn't justify spending the money on a new one.

You could SAY anything you like, what you KNOW is not necessarily what you THINK you KNOW. I did not keep up with the dates, I have no need to. I know I was using an old out of date rig long after it should have been replaced. Possibly ONCE in at least 15 YEARS have I had a rig even CLOSE to state of the art, and that was a couple of years ago.

Still don't believe you due to my own experience, not based on what I think I know..    But, whatever....
We can go on and on with you attempting to justify the usefulness and capabilities of severely out-dated, obsolete hard-ware..
By all means, be frugal!  It's your money!  <S>

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Well I admit I hate getting behind someone just for them to warp off and run away, but what if they can't afford a new computer or internet?

No one is suggesting that anyone be forced to buy a new computer. No one is suggesting anyone be forced to buy or do anything.

We're not talking about the occasional surge here. What SHawk is talking about (and a couple of others as well, myself included) is players who constantly warp so bad as to completely disrupt play. There have been some over the years. Yes, we know it may not be intentional, and we know they may have no control over it. But there should be a minimum connection quality accepted by the game. Surely the server can distinguish when the connection is so bad that the player warps through the ground, and moves 2-3K in several directions in just seconds, it has to see the packet loss because it is passing the warping along to everyone else.

It'd be nice if they could write some code that sets a minimum connection quality, and gives you a disconnect if you can't meet that standard.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Still don't believe you due to my own experience, not based on what I think I know..    But, whatever....
We can go on and on with you attempting to justify the usefulness and capabilities of severely out-dated, obsolete hard-ware..
By all means, be frugal!  It's your money!  <S>

I could care less if you believe me. My 15 years of experience speaks for itself. I've been doing this since about 1993,  I figure by now I'm pretty damned qualified.

I'm not justifying anything, if you were paying attention, you'd see that. All I am saying is that the game can and has been played with a lot less than what you think is possible.

I'm not being frugal at all, my current rig was almost $1K in parts alone, and quite capable.