88AA gun ?

[feldwebel]

use 88 AA GUN YES NO ?

[macerxgp]

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[Treize69]

My braIN hurts.

[Cthulhu]

FINally, something original.

[SmokinLoon]

Knowing what I know about the current 5in guns in AH2, wouldnt the the 88mm be a bit more difficult to use?  Im not sure of the stats, but doesnt it have quite a bit slower rate of fire vs the current 5in guns? 

Static or mobile? 

[Cthulhu]

Knowing what I know about the current 5in guns in AH2, wouldnt the the 88mm be a bit more difficult to use?  Im not sure of the stats, but doesnt it have quite a bit slower rate of fire vs the current 5in guns? 

Static or mobile? 

Slower rate of fire, shorter range, no proximity fuse, smaller blast radius, yada yada yada... Very effective anti-armor weapon, but grossly over-rated as an AA weapon.

[SmokinLoon]

Slower rate of fire, shorter range, no proximity fuse, smaller blast radius, yada yada yada... Very effective anti-armor weapon, but grossly over-rated as an AA weapon.

Then would there be another "puffy" AA gun that the land bases could use that would mimic the 5in guns?

[Cthulhu]

Then would there be another "puffy" AA gun that the land bases could use that would mimic the 5in guns?

US 90 mm or British 3.7". Both proximity-fused, both very bad news. 

[Meatwad]

use 88 AA GUN YES NO ?

Squeaker  YES NO?

[RipChord929]

Rate of fire was pretty quick on a 8.8cm Flak..
1 round every 5 secs for an average crew..
Faster for short periods...

Manual fusing shouldn't be a problem as long as
we were given a stereoscopic rangefinder..
NO 88mm came without one!!!
And remember the guns were organized into
4 or 5 tube batteries, with a common gun director...

The square or star shaped Batteries were common,
with the director in the center...

Germans also had the 12.8cm twin mount in flak towers..

RC

[Cthulhu]

from what ive read, Rate of Fire for these guns was between 15 n 20 rounds a min. so not a over powering ROF. Would be good for T34 n Tiger kills on fields they are camping, and the AA for vulchers
and higher Buffs.

That's because the American 5" guns were proximity fused. To my knowledge, the Germans never developed proximity fuses. The 88 was time-fused using a Kommandogerat optical predictor to determine the azimuth, slant range, elevation and time setting. In fact General der Flakartillerie a. D. von Renz estimated that in actuality it required 4,000 88mm shells to down one bomber. A USAAF study (trying to find it) indicated that were the Germans  to use proximity fuses, 8th AF flak losses would triple and the B-24 would be knocked out of the European war entirely.
In contrast, the American 90mm AA gun, and the British 3.7in AA gun, did have proximity fuses, as well as greater range, and were much more effective. The downside being that the Allied weapons were heavier, less mobile, and produced in far fewer numbers than the Flak 88.

Feel free to sit there and pull the trigger 4,000 times.

[Die Hard]

In AH bombers don't usually fly at 30k. And you shouldn't be able to aim a single 88, but the gun director that directs all the flak at a base. For base defence vs vehicles I'd say place a few PAK 40's around the perimeter of the base in prepared defensive positions giving them both cover and armor.

[Cthulhu]

Again, the operative term here is "no proximity fuse". History (or perhaps The History Channel ) has exaggerated the AA effectiveness of the 8.8 flak, whereas in reality it was it's direct fire capability against armor that gave it it's fierce reputation.

For base defence vs vehicles I'd say place a few PAK 40's around the perimeter of the base in prepared defensive positions giving them both cover and armor.

I like this idea, but with one suggestion. Instead of armored positions, position the guns somewhat randomly around the base/town and give them good concealment from the air. I'm thinking this would be more in line with actual wartime practice than armored positions. In any event, it would definitely make enemy armor pull up short and survey a base/town really closely before racing in like they do now.

[Die Hard]

Again, the operative term here is "no proximity fuse".

But they did have timed fuses that were automatically calculated and set by the fire-control director. At extreme altitudes like 30k this would not be very accurate compared to VT fuses, but at low to medium altitudes the difference would not be that big when using saturation fire from several batteries.

[bobtom]

Squeaker  YES NO?

Yes.