"Don't Move Your Controlls So Rapily!"

[Zigrat]

believe me

the stick stir code is GREAT

its much better than that molasses handling at warbirds!

i have never gotten stick stir message unless i was doing smething funky...

[Swager]

If HTC took that stir sticking code out, you'd hear nothing but complaints from people who "couldn't hit the stir stickin SOB in from of them"!

I really dont think ole Peggy would throw a wartime P-51 around the sky like she does the 300.

I got that message the other day and was shot down.  So I tuned my JS alittle and Whaaa-Laaa!!

[rogwar]

Make sure you don't have the "poll with interupts" box checked on the Microsoft joystick setup. It took me several days of frustration to deal with that thing one time.

I do hate that floppy fishy thingy that I sometimes see however if possible I usually just fly my plane closer if possible and try to get a couple of accurate well-placed cannon hits on them. This has a tendency to degrade their capability when you shoot some key structures off the aircraft.

 

I love this game...

Rogue out

[Vermillion]

As someone who was here before the "anti-stick stirring" code was added, let me assure you that its a GOOD thing.

Usually if your getting that message and your not stirring the stick, your getting joystick spiking, which you need to fix anyways.

To be honest, I think its actually been toned back in the last version or two as can be seen by all the "floppy fish" manuevering I've seen lately.

[hazed-]

vv verm its definately happening a bit more lately.
ive had a few scissor fights lately where ive got right on the 6 position and fired with that thought 'got him' only to see it rise 5ft out of my bullets then drop back below my nose and as my bullets fly into nothing and i curse     the damn plane starts its next scissor and i have to start all over again.

it really is infuriating! just glad it isnt a constant occourance  


the code is a godsend if it has stopped the majority of stirrers.

btw highflyer remember the stick on your comp is not attached by wires/cables/rods to the ailerons etc on the aircraft in AH! if you was in the real thing it(your stick) would only go over from one side to the other as fast as the aircraft is capable of responding!. in a real aircraft you dont slam the stick left and right like a limp dick(   ) and expect instant reactions.Yes even the extra couldnt do it and this is where you have got the wrong idea.

[ 09-04-2001: Message edited by: hazed- ]

[discod]

OK I have found that I can still "jink" <-- (manuver I learned froma real WWII fighter ace) and not get the annoying message.  I just have to settle down a bit  

After reading the posts about warping I can see the point of having it on the planes and it would probably be worse without it.  Although I'm not sure it would be worse for me because for some reason every plane in the game bounces constantly.  Probably my stupid modem connection.

It is extrememly frustrating to watch the plane on front of you jump up and down in my sight...I have to use "The Force" with every kill because aiming at a bouncy plane just wastes ammo.  

Some day I'll get cable or DSL    

[Steven]

No one has touched upon how long this thing lasts.  The two times I've encountered the message I did center the joystick for a moment and then attempted to regain control again and nothing.  Gentle push down on joystick...up, left, right..nothing.  The first time I encountered it I had no one on my tail and eventually got control back and survived. The 2nd time I had a Spitfire on my tail and after what seemed like minutes, I was finally shot down.

So how do you get OUT of the joystick lock once it occurs.  Should it really last as long as it does?  

-Puke
332nd Flying Mongrels

[AKSWulfe]

It lasts for 15 seconds.

It will last longer if you keep getting the message.

When I get the message I press "x" and it goes into level flight.

Best you can do, better have some speed or else your an easy target now.

It all balances out-> You are an impossible target when you stick stir, but an extremely easy target when you lose your controls.
 
-SW

[highflyer]

I think the same "logic" that this stick stir follows, nessesitating pilots to dumb down the effectiveness of their flight controls should be looked into for carrying over to the WARP factor that others see in everyday to day aces high activites.

Example:  You are in a fight and the enemy is in your 12 oclock view and he Suddenly Warps... or for that matter FLOATS and winds up looking like a plane in Space. Well After that breif moment of Anti gravity that the "warping/about to disco" plane is doing, I suggest that instead of allowing the plane to SUDDENLY warp around to your 6, Keep him there flying straight and level. This can be a reflection of how to keep things on the same "logic" level as far as penalties are concerned.

Why put the pilot who was winning,.. at a disadvantage just because the person with either the slower/packet losing connection warps to thier 6.

Implement rules to keep All game Features level across the board.

[Fatty]

First, I've never even seen this message, having gone through a handful joysticks since beta.  I have even tried to get this message with no success.

Second, I find it pretty hard to believe you would be able to throw around a cabled up wwii flight stick the way you can twist that thing around on your desk.  Citing my experiences with point one, I am fairly certain of it if you're getting the joystick too rapid message (of course, there's always joystick spiking).

[dtango]

I changed my stick scaling about 2 weeks ago and have gotten this message twice.  Have to remember to hit "x" when this happens since one of those times I got "frozen" at a slight bank with nose down at low altitude right into the drink   .  Lovely.

Not sure if I was guilty of "stirring" the stick or not during those times, but seeing how I haven't gotten this message before in the past until JS rescaling I'd have to think not.

I switched from a "log" scale to "linear" scale (going upward from 10 to 90).  I also increased the damping and the deadband.  Not sure which of these triggered the change.  I'll play around with it a little and report back anything I find.

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[ 09-05-2001: Message edited by: dtango ]

[SKurj]

The majority of warps seen in the arena are due to a problem on YOUR end.  This is a long standing fact in mmopg's


SKurj

[bowser]

Sorry, wrong.

bowser

[Fatty]

Wonder if connection spikes lead to percieved (by the system) stick stirring?

[Booky]

If you got a MS stick uncheck the poll with interupts box. If you still get the message, and are not stick stiring then increase you deadband and dampening in AH settings. I used to get this message a lot when attempting scissers, and it turns out it was because my stick was spiking. Just increase Deadband, and dampening untill it goes away.

If you are stick stiring, this wont help as it takes away the stick stir affect altogether anyway    

[ 09-08-2001: Message edited by: Booky ]