La5 and hitting ur target

[Black Jack]

I'm usually flying a Spit9 in Mid War which is basically where i play all the time. The challenge i face often is after merging with lets say a P38 you have to work hard to counterattack their BnZ style of fighting. After a few minutes of surviving this and you wil finnaly have the opportunity of shooting, they decide that it's getting too hot and they extend/dive away and in no way can i follow and chase them. F4u, F6F, P38, P47 and such planes decide when and how long this fight will last and bug off when it's time to survive  So i've decided to give an La5 a shot. I checked on Gonzo's site on performance of this plane and I like the numbers. It does many things as good or better than my Spit9. It will turn with a spit unless u go with flaps but if that would be the case you just disengage pull up and come back for a new setup. Now my big big big problem. I can't hit squat with this thing. The rate of fire is so slow a train could go between bullets. I would like to know how the guys who fly it set up their convergence and how they do it to be able to make some good hits with those 20mm. One good thing that helps is that they are nose mounted but you could still shoot over ur target if convergence is too far out. If i can figure out how to hit something, then they won't be able to get away from me as easy as they are doing it vs my Spit9.  Thanks

Black70

[Anaxogoras]

The issue you're having is not rate of fire, but velocity.  On your Spitfire IX, the Hispano II cannons have a muzzle velocity of ~880m/s.  The La-5 cannons have a muzzle velocity of ~770m/s.  You're going to have to lead the target more and fire from a shorter distance.  The Hispano II and V cannons are the best autocannons in the game; other cannon armaments are more difficult to hit with, so that's something you'll have to contend with if you want to try Japanese, German, Italian and Russian aircraft (with the exception of the Yak-9T I hear).

My advice is to adjust by taking only the closest shots at first, and then gradually attempting shots that are slightly further out.  Good luck!

Edit:  Here's a good link: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8217/fgun/fgun-pe.html?200814

[The Fugitive]

I'm usually flying a Spit9 in Mid War which is basically where i play all the time. The challenge i face often is after merging with lets say a P38 you have to work hard to counterattack their BnZ style of fighting. After a few minutes of surviving this and you wil finnaly have the opportunity of shooting, they decide that it's getting too hot and they extend/dive away and in no way can i follow and chase them. F4u, F6F, P38, P47 and such planes decide when and how long this fight will last and bug off when it's time to survive  So i've decided to give an La5 a shot. I checked on Gonzo's site on performance of this plane and I like the numbers. It does many things as good or better than my Spit9. It will turn with a spit unless u go with flaps but if that would be the case you just disengage pull up and come back for a new setup. Now my big big big problem. I can't hit squat with this thing. The rate of fire is so slow a train could go between bullets. I would like to know how the guys who fly it set up their convergence and how they do it to be able to make some good hits with those 20mm. One good thing that helps is that they are nose mounted but you could still shoot over ur target if convergence is too far out. If i can figure out how to hit something, then they won't be able to get away from me as easy as they are doing it vs my Spit9.  Thanks

Black70

ummm instead of looking for another "uber ride" that can catch the F4u, F6F, P38, P47...ummmm why not FLY the F4u, F6F, P38, P47? This is the problem with todays players. Why spend a bit more time LEARNING to fly the planes you fear/can't kill when you can take a "short cut" and fly a faster plane with bigger cannons. 

[Black Jack]

ummm instead of looking for another "uber ride" that can catch the F4u, F6F, P38, P47...ummmm why not FLY the F4u, F6F, P38, P47? This is the problem with todays players. Why spend a bit more time LEARNING to fly the planes you fear/can't kill when you can take a "short cut" and fly a faster plane with bigger cannons. 

What tells you I don't, I fly most of em with a specific plan on type of flight I want to do. I never tried La5 before. So instead of taking the easy way and flying what they fly, why not spend a bit of time LEARNING a plane i never flew before and can do most of the jobs at the same time. Like my spit.  Thanks for your input 

[ink]

The LA5 is a great little plane,but the cannons are a bit "off" they are for me anyways, the LA5 seems like a bigger and better Hurri2c, if I could hit good in it, I would fly the LA5 almost a exclusivly, so what I have been doing, and what I suggest
to you, is download Rangers offline mission "winter breakout" and take the LA5, fly it as often as you can, the mission is great and there are more than enough targets to get that practice in, so far I am still horriblely bad at hitting with it. BUT one of these days it will come together, and you will see me park my Hurri and take up the LA5 as my ride in the LW arenas.

[bmwgs]

ummm instead of looking for another "uber ride" that can catch the F4u, F6F, P38, P47...ummmm why not FLY the F4u, F6F, P38, P47? This is the problem with todays players. Why spend a bit more time LEARNING to fly the planes you fear/can't kill when you can take a "short cut" and fly a faster plane with bigger cannons. 

Evrything seems to be a "Uber Ride".  I guess if you don't fly one of the planes above then your just not and will never be a real cartoon pilot.  I have flown the above planes, and just don't care for them, but maybe thats just me.

Faster plane with bigger cannons?  From what I have seen the speed is close on all the above, with the LA5 having maybe a slight edge.  As for the bigger cannons, well yes, the 20's are bigger than 50's, but I will take six fifties on the LA5 over the two pieces of crap that have now.   

Cartoon Uber Pilot
Fred

[The Fugitive]

Evrything seems to be a "Uber Ride".  I guess if you don't fly one of the planes above then your just not and will never be a real cartoon pilot.  I have flown the above planes, and just don't care for them, but maybe thats just me.

Faster plane with bigger cannons?  From what I have seen the speed is close on all the above, with the LA5 having maybe a slight edge.  As for the bigger cannons, well yes, the 20's are bigger than 50's, but I will take six fifties on the LA5 over the two pieces of crap that have now.   

Cartoon Uber Pilot
Fred

Not trying to give you a hard time here Fred, but why don't you like those other planes? Could it be you find it hard to win fights in them? Could it be you get shot down a lot in them? Do you find yourself getting more kills in LAs, spits? Thats what an "uber plane" is. Spits and LAs are uber because they are easier planes to fly, more forgiving of mistakes, a bigger envelope to push, and smaller consequences when you push it too hard.

You may be satisfied flying uber planes, nothing wrong with that, we are all here to have fun. My comment was made because the OP couldn't kill those other rides in a spit9 so instead of learning the rides he couldn't beat, he choose to grab the next uber ride available, aka "the short cut". I believe that many take this route only because its easier, not as much to learn when flying an LA5 as compared to learning to fly a P47, or a P38 well.

I have always loved the P38, even back in AW days. Am I a pro in it, hardly, but I get my share of kills. How many times have I died in it learning how to fly it.... well I don't think they have that number yet  My point is don't learn a new plane just because its faster and can run down another plane. Learn another plane so you can learn how to defeat it in your favorite plane.

[Anaxogoras]

I don't get it.  In the MWA the F4U has to be one of the most competitive aircraft out there, and once you learn to use the flaps properly it's very forgiving to fly.  Since their handling was updated the La series' popularity has plummeted because they became trickier to fly.

I like this advice:

Learn another plane so you can learn how to defeat it in your favorite plane.

[Masherbrum]

Evrything seems to be a "Uber Ride".  I guess if you don't fly one of the planes above then your just not and will never be a real cartoon pilot.  I have flown the above planes, and just don't care for them, but maybe thats just me.

Faster plane with bigger cannons?  From what I have seen the speed is close on all the above, with the LA5 having maybe a slight edge.  As for the bigger cannons, well yes, the 20's are bigger than 50's, but I will take six fifties on the LA5 over the two pieces of crap that have now.   

Cartoon Uber Pilot
Fred

You realize how many nasty PM's I get weekly from folks getting shot down the Ki-61?      Some even claim the "c" word.  

Personally the Yak-U is a superior plane to the La5.   It doesn't have WEP, but that is because the WEP is always on.   The Yak is one of the most difficult planes to catch just flying at cruising speed and level.  

[Bronk]

You realize how many nasty PM's I get weekly from folks getting shot down the Ki-61?      Some even claim the "c" word.  

Personally the Yak-U is a superior plane to the La5.   It doesn't have WEP, but that is because the WEP is always on.   The Yak is one of the most difficult planes to catch just flying at cruising speed and level.  

200 mph+ auto speed... try and catch it in that climb.

[Anaxogoras]

Personally the Yak-U is a superior plane to the La5.   It doesn't have WEP, but that is because the WEP is always on.   The Yak is one of the most difficult planes to catch just flying at cruising speed and level.  

I don't think the Yak-9U available in the MWA, is it?

[Masherbrum]

I don't think the Yak-9U available in the MWA, is it?

I didn't make that comment "arena specific" per se.   My bad.   

[bmwgs]

Not trying to give you a hard time here Fred, but why don't you like those other planes? Could it be you find it hard to win fights in them? Could it be you get shot down a lot in them? Do you find yourself getting more kills in LAs, spits? Thats what an "uber plane" is. Spits and LAs are uber because they are easier planes to fly, more forgiving of mistakes, a bigger envelope to push, and smaller consequences when you push it too hard.

You may be satisfied flying uber planes, nothing wrong with that, we are all here to have fun. My comment was made because the OP couldn't kill those other rides in a spit9 so instead of learning the rides he couldn't beat, he choose to grab the next uber ride available, aka "the short cut". I believe that many take this route only because its easier, not as much to learn when flying an LA5 as compared to learning to fly a P47, or a P38 well.

I have always loved the P38, even back in AW days. Am I a pro in it, hardly, but I get my share of kills. How many times have I died in it learning how to fly it.... well I don't think they have that number yet  My point is don't learn a new plane just because its faster and can run down another plane. Learn another plane so you can learn how to defeat it in your favorite plane.

Actually I have no idea why I don't care for them.  I have flown every fighter in the game, and F4U and 38 is not my plane of choice.  I have gotten kills in them, and I do understand that in the F4U flaps are sometimes a must, and I do use them, but I just don't care for the plane.  Matter of fact I find it harder to get kills in the LA5 than the F4U, mainly because of the guns.

Its just one of those things that I do like the spits, LA5, don't really care for the LA7, and on occasion the 51.  I do use the 47 for some rare times when I'm going to bomb something, but that's about it.

As for flying planes to learn how to defeat them, that's exactly what I do.  I don't have too much problems with the F4u these days unless it has a really good stick in it.  The 38 still give me fits at time because I have a tendency to want to go vertical with it when I shouldn't.  But your right, its a game I like to play, and if the plane I like are Uber, then so be it.   

Fred

[bmwgs]

You realize how many nasty PM's I get weekly from folks getting shot down the Ki-61?      Some even claim the "c" word.  

Personally the Yak-U is a superior plane to the La5.   It doesn't have WEP, but that is because the WEP is always on.   The Yak is one of the most difficult planes to catch just flying at cruising speed and level.  

I actually like the 61.  It definitely is a plane that I need to put a lot of time in to learn, but what little I have flown it, I like it.  I do like the Yak, I just hate the guns.  They are worse than the LA5, but with time I guess one can get better with them.

Fred

[Masherbrum]

I actually like the 61.  It definitely is a plane that I need to put a lot of time in to learn, but what little I have flown it, I like it.  I do like the Yak, I just hate the guns.  They are worse than the LA5, but with time I guess one can get better with them.

Fred

bmwgs, look me up if you see me on.  I'll let you hop in my Ki-61 and walk you through some stuff.   I'll switch to where ever you are flying.