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Offline B4Buster

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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2008, 12:33:27 PM »
Edit:Why do you think it's mostly Rooks who ask for it on here? :P

Guess I never put much thought to it, all makes sense now!  :rofl

I do think it's an excellent idea that you need to be attached, but then what happens when someone just sits in the tower and lets it die anyway? I guess there's no way to fix that if someone's vengeful enough. As far as people putting their shades in the SBs, I've made a mental note of everytime it's happened, and it's almost always when the Knights are attacking a base, there's someone in the SB that won't be shooting. I'm not pointing fingeres, just stating what i've noticed
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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2008, 12:39:31 PM »
Well...even if someone just sits in the tower, it WILL solve 99.9% of the complaints we're getting now about it. Only other bad thing about it is when there's no one by it and someone would have to bail out and turn it. Happens on squad channel a lot, when someone's busy fighting off cons and they call out someone on VOX to turn it real quick.
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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2008, 12:39:54 PM »
Tripl5 is the only fool I automatically put on squelch when I see him, or even worse hear him. The sad thing is if/when he see's this thread he'll just do this stuff more. Whats even sadder is he's no kid but supposedly a grown man.

He'd be easier to take but for that whiney, sniveling voice. That "waaa, waaaa, waaaa".
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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2008, 12:41:10 PM »
As far as people putting their shades in the SBs, I've made a mental note of everytime it's happened, and it's almost always when the Knights are attacking a base, there's someone in the SB that won't be shooting. I'm not pointing fingeres, just stating what i've noticed

 :noid Nobody would do such a thing...... :lol

Its been seen several times before and posted about it, thats why we would like to see an ID tag of the player manning guns, yet Santa still has not come through this year with it.  Maybe next year.  :(



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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2008, 12:42:24 PM »
Well...even if someone just sits in the tower, it WILL solve 99.9% of the complaints we're getting now about it. Only other bad thing about it is when there's no one by it and someone would have to bail out and turn it. Happens on squad channel a lot, when someone's busy fighting off cons and they call out someone on VOX to turn it real quick.

You're right, maybe physically being in the tower or one of the guns would need to be required. I guess it would make things a little more realistic seeing as how in real life, the captian was on the bridge, not out in a plane.
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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2008, 01:00:45 PM »
Guess I never put much thought to it, all makes sense now!  :rofl

I do think it's an excellent idea that you need to be attached, but then what happens when someone just sits in the tower and lets it die anyway? I guess there's no way to fix that if someone's vengeful enough. As far as people putting their shades in the SBs, I've made a mental note of everytime it's happened, and it's almost always when the Knights are attacking a base, there's someone in the SB that won't be shooting. I'm not pointing fingeres, just stating what i've noticed

To combat just that scenario you would only have to implement a cost in perks should said cv be sunk while you're in Command. To keep folks from putting the cv in harms way then jumping ship before it is sunk is a simple fix also. When you take Command of a cv group and then relinquish Command you are still responsible, perk wise, for the safety of the force for 15 minutes or until someone else moves or takes Command of the group.

This simple fix would also keep folks who are flying off the deck but in control of the cv from not paying attention to that cv as they fly.
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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2008, 01:15:20 PM »
Pretty simple indeed.  Can't drive the CV if you're not on-board.  Physically impossible.

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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2008, 01:22:43 PM »
problem is noone who can fly or gv is going to bother sitting on the bridge of a CV which takes 30min to cross 1 sector for long enough to do anything useful with it. gunning on a buff sortie would be more entertaining. and we all know the calibre of player who would elect to do that, and their tactical prowess. you know what i'm saying here ... ;)
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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2008, 01:51:27 PM »
Oh, this kind of behavior enrages me. Its not just Tripl5. I see it all the time. The system they currently have is only good at keeping complete nooblets from taking the cv hostage. Other than that, rank is a terrible way to lock out CV control. Just because you are in the top 500, doesn't mean you are any good...not even close. The idea ive always had is to implement a voting system. If some idiot with a low rank decides he wants to take the CV hostage, thats fine, but if enough people vote to override him, (not sure how many people that should be) then he gets kicked out of the commander seat, and cant control a cv in any arena for 12 hours or so.

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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2008, 01:59:16 PM »
Oh, this kind of behavior enrages me. Its not just Tripl5. I see it all the time. The system they currently have is only good at keeping complete nooblets from taking the cv hostage. Other than that, rank is a terrible way to lock out CV control. Just because you are in the top 500, doesn't mean you are any good...not even close. The idea ive always had is to implement a voting system. If some idiot with a low rank decides he wants to take the CV hostage, thats fine, but if enough people vote to override him, (not sure how many people that should be) then he gets kicked out of the commander seat, and cant control a cv in any arena for 12 hours or so.

That might work..but then you affectively are giving a squad control of the CV, cause that is what will end up happening. And then starts the squad wars. And those who are not in a squad or like Luche who are the only members of a squad, don't ever count on controlling a CV.

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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2008, 01:59:37 PM »
I like almost everyone...but i thank god everytime I log on and see Tripl5 is not Bish anymore. Watadusch!

 :aok  I too found the bish country channel much more tolerable since his departure.

I think it was 5 or 6 months ago but Tripl5 pulled the exact same manuever on a CV that I and a few others were using.  After speaking with him a moment I realized he has some problems playing nice with others.
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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2008, 02:08:22 PM »
This is not the first time tripl has done this Tildeath. Pondscum is the term. Usually, higher ranked pilots use good judgement in CV control but there is always PONDSCUM out there!
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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2008, 02:13:48 PM »
That might work..but then you affectively are giving a squad control of the CV, cause that is what will end happening. And then starts the squad wars. And those who are not in a squad or like Luche who are the only members of a squad, don't ever count on controlling a CV.

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Yah..that is a drawback. I think for the most part, if someone is doing a good job, squads will play nice. There really is no perfect system though. I would rather have an entire squad take it over some spiteful dweeb. At least if a squad has it, they are most likely using it legitimately. I don't do much base capturing. Every once and a while I get the urge to help with it, and almost every time theres a cv involved, some idiot takes it directly to the shore battery. I consider myself a cv noob, and even I know not to do that. I have to come to the conclusion that a good percentage of the time, its done on purpose by someone with a 2nd account, or someone who just likes to piss people off.

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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2008, 02:22:01 PM »
... or a way to get LVT4s into range - its the best way of suppressing SBs if your on the ball ;)
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Re: CV control and Egos
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2008, 02:27:29 PM »
+1

I would hate to be a rook and fight alongside Tripl5 haha, why I like bishland, not too many score potatoes that get upset and suicide their own CV  :lol

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