Norwegin Aces

[RTHolmes]

wow 7 pages to go from a (actually pretty funny) joke to the familiar old *pick any non-US country* bashing thread.


since you plainly cant be bothered/aren't capable of putting historical events in perspective, or presenting any consistent argument to support your (I'll be polite) theories how about just cutting the cr@p.

just post "if you're not Amerkin you're a f@g" and leave it there. then we'll all be clear.

[Hangtime]

wow 7 pages to go from a (actually pretty funny) joke to the familiar old *pick any non-US country* bashing thread.

since you plainly cant be bothered/aren't capable of putting historical events in perspective, or presenting any consistent argument to support your (I'll be polite) theories how about just cutting the cr@p.

just post "if you're not Amerkin you're a f@g" and leave it there. then we'll all be clear.

LOL.. another Euro-revisionist fanboi check-in, Holmes?

Perfect.

Ok.. dispute the facts; or is all you can do here is toss more poo?

ok hangtime we aren't arguing that they didn't surrender, everyone was making comments that norway rolled over and died at the first sign of trouble, which they didn't they fought the longest before surrendering of any of the german occupied countries, so we are arguing the fact that it is false to say norway just surrendered immediatly.

2nd of all the king and the gold leaving the country as i said before was a small victory so the country could go on after the war and so the NAZIS wouldn't get the gold to fuel their war

Shall I wade up through this thread and drag out the claims that Norway did not surrender? Good of you to finally concede that point.. BUT, as Holmes points out; that only took 7 pages. A case could be made that the revisionist fanboi's have invested more effort in denying the facts than Norway did in actually repelling an invader.

[coralgol]

I do not think the US ever sank a German cruiser 

Prinz Eugen
And ragarding  other points, how big actually  were german forces invading Norway in comparison to those invading France/Poland .
One more question, did the fact that Norwegian were considered aryan, play any role in the invasion of Norway?

[CAVPFCDD]

Shall I wade up through this thread and drag out the claims that Norway did not surrender? Good of you to finally concede that point.. BUT, as Holmes points out; that only took 7 pages. A case could be made that the revisionist fanboi's have invested more effort in denying the facts than Norway did in actually repelling an invader.

not once do I or anyone else say they didn't  surrender, we were saying they didn't just fold instantly like some of you are claiming

[Rich46yo]

The Finns were invaded by the Russians... and resisted fiercely. They were forced to cede territory.. but never suffered occupation, never capitulated and did in fact declare war on Germany. Finlands interest in the war was Finland.. and it defended itself and it's sovereignty effectively.

The Republic of Finland was attacked by the USSR on 30 November 1939.[8] Later Finland and the Kingdom of Denmark officially joined the Axis Anti-Comintern Pact. The Kingdom of Sweden remained officially neutral. Following the Moscow armistice of September 1944, Finland effectively joined the Allies and expelled German forces. This led to a series of armed clashes called the Lapland War.


Also, see 'Winter War'. Learn. Be amazed. And what's with the childish petulant insults, Rich? That all you got?

Oh I got a lot more then that. I think the entire concept of the Scandinavian countries of WW-2 was to stay alive. Thats actually the premier goal in a war. To preserve your society. Most of all when up against foes far more powerful then yourself. The alternative, of course, was to end up a smoking ruin like Japan and Germany. Whose societies ended up on the verge of annihilation.

The northern countries accomplished it with a mix of neutrality, resistance, shifting alliances, and to some degree treasonable activities. When compared to the great war crimes of WW-2 their sins pale in comparison. They were all alone. Against enemies they could not beat. Not even Finland.

Dont speak so cavalier about war and violence if you've never experienced it hangtime. It gives you no right to judge either courage or cowardliness.

I'm done with this.  To the sons of Norway who fought their oppressors in WW-2.

[Elfie]

The alternative, of course, was to end up a smoking ruin like Japan and Germany. Whose societies ended up on the verge of annihilation.

That is an overstatement of the facts. Neither society was on the verge of annihilation.

[Elfie]

The Finns allied with the Nazis. Did you forget that little tidbit of history? And before that they made a separate peace with the Soviets ceding 10% of their territory and 20% of their Industrial capacity.

Don't they teach history in those one room school houses Hangtime? The ones with 9 hound dogs sleeping under the porch?

This is an over simplification of what happened to the point that it is nearly a lie by omission of the facts.

The only reason the Finns allied with Germany was because there was no one else to help them against the USSR.

[Bronk]

not once do I or anyone else say they didn't  surrender, we were saying they didn't just fold instantly like some of you are claiming

 Better let nilsen know then.

General Ruge who signed the "surrender" treaty never had the proper authorization to surrender and the war went on without Norway having signed any any valid surrender.

[Hangtime]

Dont speak so cavalier about war and violence if you've never experienced it hangtime. It gives you no right to judge either courage or cowardliness.

Rich, I spent 11 months at Ben Luc, 1st Brigade, 9th Infantry, in a service and evac outfit; hosing blood and brains of my buddies out of the wrecked equipment I was sent out to recover. I spent 41 days of that time under pretty much constant mortar and sapper attack and came home a few ounces heavier in lead than when I left.

You can take yer sanctimonious pronouncements and fold 'em up till they are all sharp pointy corners and shove 'em someplace where the sun don't shine, puppy.

I've tried to deal with your BS politely, but you just can't seem to grasp that.. and seem to be beggin for a slap down. I may be old, puppy; but I'm no moron and I'm still young enough to make your eyes water if that's what you need to set your head back up where it belongs.

Now go on out in traffic and play a nice little game of hide and go hump yerself.

[Bronk]

Rich, I spent 11 months at Ben Luc, 1st Brigade, 9th Infantry, in a service and evac outfit; hosing blood and brains of my buddies out of the wrecked equipment I was sent out to recover. I spent 41 days of that time under pretty much constant mortar and sapper attack and came home a few ounces heavier in lead than when I left.

You can take yer sanctimonious pronouncements and fold 'em up till they are all sharp pointy corners and shove 'em someplace where the sun don't shine, puppy.

I've tried to deal with your BS politely, but you just can't seem to grasp that.. and seem to be beggin for a slap down. I may be old, puppy; but I'm no moron and I'm still young enough to make your eyes water if that's what you need to set your head back up where it belongs.

Now go on out in traffic and play a nice little game of hide and go hump yerself.

[Rich46yo]

I dont care what you say you've experienced or where you say you have done it. The fact is you broke into a thread like a troll and insulted some of these guys with your twisted version of history, in a way that had nothing to do with the original subject. You acted like an ignorant fool. And you still are doing so.

And frankly I dont believe your war stories or anything you say. I think your a BS artist and I have no respect for you.

People who have experienced that kind of fear aren't so cavalier about calling others "cowards". Your a phony Hangtime. A punk! Plain and simple.

Rich, I spent 11 months at Ben Luc, 1st Brigade, 9th Infantry, in a service and evac outfit; hosing blood and brains of my buddies out of the wrecked equipment I was sent out to recover. I spent 41 days of that time under pretty much constant mortar and sapper attack and came home a few ounces heavier in lead than when I left.

You can take yer sanctimonious pronouncements and fold 'em up till they are all sharp pointy corners and shove 'em someplace where the sun don't shine, puppy.

I've tried to deal with your BS politely, but you just can't seem to grasp that.. and seem to be beggin for a slap down. I may be old, puppy; but I'm no moron and I'm still young enough to make your eyes water if that's what you need to set your head back up where it belongs.

Now go on out in traffic and play a nice little game of hide and go hump yerself.

[DiabloTX]

LAWLZ, epic reply...

[Hangtime]

I dont care what you say you've experienced or where you say you have done it. The fact is you broke into a thread like a troll and insulted some of these guys with your twisted version of history, in a way that had nothing to do with the original subject. You acted like an ignorant fool. And you still are doing so.

And frankly I dont believe your war stories or anything you say. I think your a BS artist and I have no respect for you.

People who have experienced that kind of fear aren't so cavalier about calling others "cowards". Your a phony Hangtime. A punk! Plain and simple.

In the more than a decade I've been here, I've never been known to tell war stories out of class. Those that know me, know why.

I'd be very interested to know where I called anybody a coward, here.. and frankly; my interest in this 'norway never surrendered' subject has little to do with you, your opinions or your cheap insults. I keep taking you off my hook and tossing you back, and you keep getting right back on the line. 

Whatever argument you did bring to this discussion that had any information that wasn't an insult in it, I've dealt with frankly and factually.. without insulting you. And you have yet to bring a valid point that stands up to any kind of objective examination.

And here you are, back yet again, with more insults and innuendo.

You, apparently, are just another internet tuffguy newbie, still wet behind the ears and sonny boy; it's way past time for you to trot on home and tell yer mommy she loves you... your not ready for interaction with adults yet.

[Angus]

Valid points?
Like this one?
"If the United States was invaded by a hostile Army, would 1,330 casualties be enough to convince the privileged elite and the King (with the national treasury) to flee before the the remaining government and population capitulated and surrendered? That's all it took to convince the Norwegians it's time to quit... Well, all except the folks with the crown and the cash."

It's cool isn't it. Of course the USA wouldn't surrender if invaded by a country with a population 20 times bigger, as well as a reputation of being fast about the business.
Denmark fell in a day. Oslo was sneaked. So, no capital, - which in this case housed 1/4th of the nation.
Naaa, if the entire globe invaded the USA and all major cities and administration in their hands on day one, the Pres would stay and Hangtime would defend him with blazing guns 

[Hangtime]

I doubt seriously that a single US Army Division, in the field, on it's home turf, standing between an invader and 3 million american men women and kids and their homes would surrender after the loss of only 1330 men.

Norway had 6 Divisions.

Your point again?