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Offline DiabloTX

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2008, 02:39:41 PM »
Post a source that proves me wrong then mr-I-know-it-all.
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2008, 03:05:32 PM »
Wrong Diablo

General Ruge who signed the "surrender" treaty never had the proper authorization to surrender and the war went on without Norway having signed any any valid surrender.

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2008, 03:26:18 PM »
Nils, shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!, don't ruin my fun!
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2008, 03:35:08 PM »
Wrong Diablo

General Ruge who signed the "surrender" treaty never had the proper authorization to surrender and the war went on without Norway having signed any any valid surrender.

Well when the ruling class flee like scalded cats.... who else?
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2008, 03:47:03 PM »
See?  I told you so!
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2008, 04:01:41 PM »
Even worst.

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2008, 04:06:31 PM »
Well when the ruling class flee like scalded cats.... who else?

oh my...

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2008, 04:08:29 PM »
Well when the ruling class flee like scalded cats.... who else?

Did they, really?
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2008, 04:20:57 PM »
'Bug out Doug' ran away. :devil

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2008, 04:33:07 PM »
'Bug out Doug' ran away. :devil
And because he did the Philippines were never surrendered..... like norway.....right?
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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2008, 04:40:04 PM »
Dont let the facts get in your way Bronk  :rolleyes:

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2008, 05:23:28 PM »
Norway was kind enough to give the English language a word to describe 'traitors, collaborators, surrender monkeys and scumbags' without having to type all that.

Look up 'Quislings'.

If the United States was invaded by a hostile Army, would 1,330 casualties be enough to convince the privileged elite and the King (with the national treasury) to flee before the the remaining government and population capitulated and surrendered? That's all it took to convince the Norwegians it's time to quit... Well, all except the folks with the crown and the cash.

During the German invasion of Norway and the campaign that lead to it's capitulation the Norwegians suffered 1,335 casualties, the French and Poles 550. The British suffered most heavily, taking 4,400 casualties. Nearly a third of those loses came after the end of the land campaign, when the aircraft carrier HMS Glorious was sunk by the German battlecruisers Gneisenau and Scharnhorst while returning to Britain with an escort of two destroyers.

Yes indeed, little Norway's government in exile did continue the fight... losing another 1,700 or so troops during the war. Thing is, the German SS Norwegian Divisions, made up of Quislings sacrificed far more for the Nazi cause than they did for the 'allied' cause.

http://www.frontkjemper.com/

War Casualties, by nation WWII

France: 217,000
Poland: 240,000
England: 382,000
United States: 417,000

Norway: 3,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

Yah.. brave; ain't they? Such resolve.. such sacrifice! Yes, lets single out Norway for it's exemplary determination and sacrifice in defeating the Nazi Scourge!

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2008, 05:56:09 PM »
Oh and Hangtime chimes in with no real insight as usual... lmao nice try kid  :rofl

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Re: Norwegin Aces
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2008, 06:00:08 PM »
That's right, Nils.

No 'real' insight.

Just the Facts with supporting links.  Of course, it being the truth; with links, it's not quite what your used to, is it?

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Re: Norwegian Aces
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2008, 09:33:18 PM »
Tell me how many Yanks thru their hands up when surrounded and/or outgunned? How many Brits? Canucks? Germans? Russians? Hundreds of thousands or Millions?

Scary stuff being outgunned and downrange. Little Norway was way over-matched. But 95% of her population never hugged the German occupiers. The Germans would execute or send your entire family to C-camps for resisting.

How brave would all you gunslingers be then?

While its true there were a lot of Norwegian volunteers for the Waffen SS I'm unaware of any atrocities committed by them and they spent the entire war on the eastern front. Many were motivated to fight the Russians in support of Finland. Do remember this was the same Stalinist Russia that enslaved all of eastern Europe for 45 years, murdered countless millions in cold blood, "worse then Hitler", and were mortal enemies of America and the west for decades.

So the whole Norway thing is complicated. I dont think blanket one liners, "surrender monkeys" really begins to describe it. Most of all if your a big arsed middle class American whiteboy, sitting in front of a computer, thats never even been in a fistfight.
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