Tom Cruise movie Valkyrie

[Fulmar]

People in Germany love Hasselhoff so its a wash.


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You guessed it, Frank Stallone may have something to say about that.

[Rich46yo]

Try the invasion of France and the low countries.  They were bracing for a long, hard fight similar to WW1.

Anyway, I'm done arguing against your 2 dimensional character sketches.

In English dude. Speak plainly. Your two liner babblings are incomprehensible.

But go ahead and run away anyway. Like a girl.

Name one legitimate assasination attempt by the German armed forces to prevent the invasion of France and the Low countries.

Sheesh!!

[DiabloTX]

Everyone knows German officers in movies have British accents.




wrongway

Tell that to George Peppard.

[Tango]

I find it funny that all the other Germans in the movie speak with English accents [of course they are all English] except for Tom. He could of at least tried an English accent.

[Saxman]

Tell that to Kevin Costner....

[Ack-Ack]

See Rule #2

[Ack-Ack]

They were made up of opportunists who were thrilled that Hitler poured so many resources into the army and thus were advancing their own careers. They only thought he was "outrageously presumptuous" when it starting looking like they were going to lose. When they were winning they were goose stepping higher then anyone. Believing the Fuhrer was a genius.

Dick, your over simplification of history is just absolutely amazing and incorrect.  There was a plot (probably the best chance to succeed) against Hitler by elements of the German High Command (led by the Chief of Staff) that would have over thrown Hitler and arrested him if he had gone to war with England and France over the Sudentenland (sp?).  Unfortunately, Chamberlain's appeasement to Hitler over Czechlosvakia ended any chance of the plot succeeding because the coup plotters believed that they would no longer have the support of the German people.

It's really a very interesting story and also mentions how the majority of the 'Old Guard' Prussian officers in the German High Command were replaced by generals Hitler thought were more loyal and receptive to his policies.


ack-ack

[JB88]

People in Germany love Hasselhoff so its a wash.


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[Hangtime]

Saw a preview tonight for a WW2 resistance move that's coming out in January.  Can't remember the name right now but it looks about eleventy trillion times better than Valkyrie.

Defiance.

[Rich46yo]

                        Yes crack. Another fantasy assassination scheme that never quite happened. Aint it funny how that kept happening thru the war.
Of course its common knowledge to anyone who knows history that the old guard was unhappy with Hitler because they were still living in the infantry based war schemes of 1914 and they didn't trust all this newfangled armor and maneuver tactics that had, at that time, been unproven on the battlefield. Again their goals were purely personal. They didnt want to lose the war or their own influence.

                       So it had nothing to do with morality and more to do with the old guard losing power, and again like in '44, fear Germany would lose the war. And like I said earlier Germany was booming with failed assassination stories after they lost and the only thing they had in common, except for two, is that they never actually happened. Whats that tell you.

                      But do keep up the conversation crack.....ack crack....bloody fascinating stuff.

Dick, your over simplification of history is just absolutely amazing and incorrect.  There was a plot (probably the best chance to succeed) against Hitler by elements of the German High Command (led by the Chief of Staff) that would have over thrown Hitler and arrested him if he had gone to war with England and France over the Sudentenland (sp?).  Unfortunately, Chamberlain's appeasement to Hitler over Czechlosvakia ended any chance of the plot succeeding because the coup plotters believed that they would no longer have the support of the German people.

It's really a very interesting story and also mentions how the majority of the 'Old Guard' Prussian officers in the German High Command were replaced by generals Hitler thought were more loyal and receptive to his policies.


ack-ack

[macerxgp]

COMING THIS DECEMBER:
Tom Cruise in; Valkyrie

I honestly laughed my bellybutton off when I first saw the commercial.

1. Operation Valkyrie snagged the prop on the runway. Skidded to the side, some love muffin taped the rudder to the right.
2. IT'S TOM F**KING CRUISE!!

Wrong actor, wrong event, wrong PERIOD. Were already getting 'Defiance', and that one looks like a damn good movie to me. We don't need a turkey.


Really, I haven't expected ANYTHING good outta this guy. Especially after I heard he was on Mickey Rooney's crazy pills.

[Hajo]

A good number of the Prussian higher echelon were killed before 1940.

If someone did not agree with Hitler they were eliminated.

That's how he ended up with maniacs and cross dressers.  They agreed with him
and kept him in power.

[Swager]

Good points, since Hollywood has always in the past kept with the finer points of history.

Too bad the AH O'Club doesn't have it's own movie production company then you could all show the world how things truly were.

Most of you people are on the same track with this topic as you are with your political views.

The world, how it should be, according to the AH O'Club.  Now there's an exciting place to be, a world built by a bunch of armchair warriors.

Everything can be done better, when you're sitting your lazy butt in front of a computer screen.

Oh BTW, in case some of you have overlooked this point,

the movie is regarded as entertainment, it's not a documentary.

[odiemus]

Swager, you mean to tell me that movies like Talladega nights arent a documentary, 

[SuBWaYCH]

Defiance.

Yep i've been waiting to see that one for quite some time. Looks really good.