Having Trouble. More ways than one.

[fuzeman]

    You have to build your foundation first. Learn BFMs, basic flight maneuvers, build that into ACM, air combat maneuvering, and learn that first. My opinion, which goes against some of the above is to pick a plane you can build that foundation in, when I was in the AHTC a usual suggestion was the Spitfire. That lets you learn the BFMs and ACMs fairly quickly because it is a forgiving ride and doesn't have many quirks you have to work around.
    Once you have that solid foundation you can then try those other planes and learn their strengths and weaknesses. Sodas site is good at helping you learn them quicker. You can then spend some time on the rides you mentioned and learn each one and find one you really like.

[iTunes]

I totally disagree with this!!  this will only teach you to be timid, and having to depend on the crowd for your safety,
screw that, that IS NOT how you should learn,read every thing you can about every plane, not how it was in history but how it is here in AH, history does not match up. also as some others have said, seek out a trainer, from what I hear there are some very good trainershere in AH. once you have done those take up,-
LA7 or 5, Both are very good turners and you can chase down those that run(most of them)
 N1k or Ki-84
Yaks are great little planes just low ammo and fuel.
of course there is the HurriMK2C,(my favorite) you wont run from anyone but the cannons are very deadly, and you can out turn pretty much every thing else. in the right hands its extremely dangerous and fully capable of taking on the hourde with some ALT, backing you. set your convergence short, say around 300, fire at that distance and you will be amazed at how quickly planes explode.
  then go into the main Arena, STAY AWAY from the friendly hourde, and fly towards a red dar, this will, as time goes by very much improve your SA, Merge tactics, you will learn to depend on your self to chk your 6, not others.
 remember ALT is your friend, take off from a base NOT under attack,(until you are ready for that)
DONT worry about dying there are nice new shinny planes in the Hanger just for you.

most importantly fly the way that fits you, don't worry about those that whine or complain about how you fly, enjoy yourself and have fun.

JETSOM

Would you not agree that my post covers about 99% of flyers in the MA? Would you not agree that a new guy being shot down a lot will have a negative effect on confidence? Would you not agree that watching how a fellow chess piece disptaches someone will help you learn? I'd also add that spending time with a trainer is probably the best thing to do.
I don't know his intentions for AH, If he is into scores and stats then my advice is good. If he is like very small % of us who flys for the fight then he should do otherwise, but overall I'd say survival is key for any new guy.

[ink]

Would you not agree that my post covers about 99% of flyers in the MA? Would you not agree that a new guy being shot down a lot will have a negative effect on confidence? Would you not agree that watching how a fellow chess piece disptaches someone will help you learn? I'd also add that spending time with a trainer is probably the best thing to do.
I don't know his intentions for AH, If he is into scores and stats then my advice is good. If he is like very small % of us who flys for the fight then he should do otherwise, but overall I'd say survival is key for any new guy.

I can see what you are saying, only because I try to look through others eyes, when I started I flew the same way I do now, by my self and fightin the Hourd, I would very  die so often, I think my first month was 360ish sorties with 40 killz,
All it did was make me try harder, read more about the planes, and learn as much as I could, watched all the films I could,and just never storpped trying.
 
  I would also say less than 80% of MA is how you describe, I am finding alot more fights, more people are willing to put it on the line. IMO

 

[Steel]

Stop by the DA sometime and I will help you with the American iron. We can have cold guns and I will walk you thru the small things that matter.

<S> Steele

[Messiah]

Ki84, learn to E-fight in it as that is what it does best.  It also turns very well and climbs extremely well.  Don't BnZ in it as it has poor high speed handling.  Learn to master the spiral climb as it will be your saving grace in 1vX situations. 

[dashed]

IMNSVHO, you have several issues that no one "plane" is going to resolve.  The first question is "can you fly?".  If you don't understand what your planes controls do, and how to visualize what is going to happen in 3D, everything else is going to be harder, if not impossible.

I'd suggest some time in the venerable FM2.  It is reasonably tough, and can stand up to just about anything, and more importantly can teach you how to control your plane and yourself.  Some people are natural T&B pilots, while others instictively use and understand B&Z. 

Learn the basics of flight, then some ACM, and then try a few fighters (and some bombing, etc.) to see what fits you.  If I were a trainer, I'd train you in Spit 9, 38, and a couple 47s.  Don't get wrapped up in cool, or what I and others think, to have fun just be comfortable.

[Alpha202]

IMNSVHO, you have several issues that no one "plane" is going to resolve.  The first question is "can you fly?".  If you don't understand what your planes controls do, and how to visualize what is going to happen in 3D, everything else is going to be harder, if not impossible.

I'd suggest some time in the venerable FM2.  It is reasonably tough, and can stand up to just about anything, and more importantly can teach you how to control your plane and yourself.  Some people are natural T&B pilots, while others instictively use and understand B&Z. 

Learn the basics of flight, then some ACM, and then try a few fighters (and some bombing, etc.) to see what fits you.  If I were a trainer, I'd train you in Spit 9, 38, and a couple 47s.  Don't get wrapped up in cool, or what I and others think, to have fun just be comfortable.

Well, I'm Not as much as wrapped Up In what Is the "Cool" aircraft.
I Like The ones I suggested, and would Like To learn them. I Didn't Even realize the planes I mentioned were Considered Cool.
also There are other aircraft I do like, as I said, I just Think out of the ones I have listed I would Prefer Them over most.

Yes I seem To succeed In TnB Usually, and I Do Know How To get My Plane up and all the way to landing a few kills( Three at Most), But I rarely land Them Because I Get over my own Head Because I think I can Do more because I haven't finished all of my ammo. If your all Not understanding I Will Try to Explain.

I Can Get my aircraft in the air Sufficiently without Problems (Unless its a SBD on a turning carrier)
I Can Aim Well, But it takes several bursts To Get the Enemy shot down if even I stay on its Six.
I Can Somewhat now Dive Bomb, But nothing to rely on.
I know Two basic Maneuvers.
I know How To Use Torpedoes Efficiently, and To level bomb
I have very little problems gunning (Cv 8,5", Or gunner Positions i.e B17's. However field manned ack is a hassle for me)
I'm Steadily learning throttle Control as well as The times To deploy Flaps.

This is really Just something that I Hoped can Get Tips or more help on Skill Or tactics Or even wing up To see How its Done Well With No Competition (I may be wishing to much But... I DO Want to be unbeatable. If even Very Hard To Beat Or Even at least So I can Give a good show, If that is even achievable For me.) Because My Kill/death isn't very Good, and as I stated I'm A rookie That just wants to get better ( So I can survive a lot more Than I try To already).

(P.S. I Do like the Fm2, very reliable little plane)

[fuzeman]

If you can make it this would be a good thing to attend.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,254999.0.html

[TonyJoey]

P-47 would be slightly harder due to it being a pure E-fighter (at least at the altitudes fought in the MA).

Strongly disagree

[Bubbajj]

Hey Alpha, get with me when you see me, Einhorn,  and we'll wing up. I'm no uber stick but I can stay out of my own way most of the time. Find a trainer. A lot of the stuff you need to know isn't intuitive and is hard to just "figure out" on your own. I never spent any time with a trainer and it has been a long hard road. When I do get to work with someone who knows what they're doing, I learn stuff and that "A-HA!" light goes on. I can tell you what I know and you can add that to your base. Find a trainer, they will show you stuff that will knock your socks off. This isn't a physical sport or really even a game that requires an excess of mental horsepower. The uber sticks are using the same set of rules everyone else is, they just know when to apply them. There is no reason anyone can't be just as good as anyone else with the proper training and practice.

[Alpha202]

If you can make it this would be a good thing to attend.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,254999.0.html

Yes, I've seen that, Sounds Like a plan to me.
Is It the whole day or is there specific Times?

*EDIT* Oh Ok I see The time, Sorry.

Hey Alpha, get with me when you see me, Einhorn,  and we'll wing up. I'm no uber stick but I can stay out of my own way most of the time. Find a trainer. A lot of the stuff you need to know isn't intuitive and is hard to just "figure out" on your own. I never spent any time with a trainer and it has been a long hard road. When I do get to work with someone who knows what they're doing, I learn stuff and that "A-HA!" light goes on. I can tell you what I know and you can add that to your base. Find a trainer, they will show you stuff that will knock your socks off. This isn't a physical sport or really even a game that requires an excess of mental horsepower. The uber sticks are using the same set of rules everyone else is, they just know when to apply them. There is no reason anyone can't be just as good as anyone else with the proper training and practice.

Sure Einhorn Always up For a Wing-up... I may not be A Reliable Wingman Though.

[Karnak]

Wait on the Mosquito until you have learned some good ACM.  Without a solid grasp of how to get an aircraft to do what you see in your mind it will teach you bad habits, such as going for the earliest desparation shot you can get knowing its very heavy punch can carry a fight then and there and if you are forced to maneuver you'll be hard pressed due to its size and handling.

[Bubbajj]

That's OK, we can talk on our way down in our chutes. 

[TAZ]

I've been in for for a week and a half (a lot of hours previously on the old Air Warrior at Gamestorm) and the Spit IX has been my crutch for the most part. Kill/Death ratio is horrible right now but that mostly due to the battles I choose and massive furballs over enbattled airfields I take off from. Target rich. I just recently moved to the 109 that I hadn't flown previously at all. I pretty much stick with Allies but you only live once so I broke down the other night and had some very enjoyable H2H battles in the reich bird in which I actually surprised myself by what I was able to do. Came out with immediate victories. But even the ones I lost were fun. It all depends on what you wanna do. I escort in a Mustang or La5/7 and maybe a Spit on short hops. Dogfight in a Spit, 109 and dive bomb with a Mustang, Hellcat or F4U. It just depends and flying the same bird all the time is boring so to each his own I guess. It's deinitely safer when flying in pairs but alone at alt is fun too when the bombers are heading home. /endrant

[Alpha202]

I've been in for for a week and a half (a lot of hours previously on the old Air Warrior at Gamestorm) and the Spit IX has been my crutch for the most part. Kill/Death ratio is horrible right now but that mostly due to the battles I choose and massive furballs over enbattled airfields I take off from. Target rich. I just recently moved to the 109 that I hadn't flown previously at all. I pretty much stick with Allies but you only live once so I broke down the other night and had some very enjoyable H2H battles in the reich bird in which I actually surprised myself by what I was able to do. Came out with immediate victories. But even the ones I lost were fun. It all depends on what you wanna do. I escort in a Mustang or La5/7 and maybe a Spit on short hops. Dogfight in a Spit, 109 and dive bomb with a Mustang, Hellcat or F4U. It just depends and flying the same bird all the time is boring so to each his own I guess. It's deinitely safer when flying in pairs but alone at alt is fun too when the bombers are heading home. /endrant

That is most likely A lot of my case.... I either get Bored of seeing the same Cockpit 100 Times or I switch it up to have Something New, But the ones I listed are the ones I USUALLY Switch To.
But it also Could be the fact that I'm losing more so than winning, that my mind says get something Different it'll do better than the one I'm in.
Maybe its that I'm To dependent on the planes abilities and not my own. (Which is what this is all about)
as they say its not the plane its the Pilot.