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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2008, 10:14:11 AM »
Strange how pickers don't want to be called it.  


Everybody picks.  Furballers are pickers. In a furball of say, 20 V 20, you are lying to your self and everyone else if you think there isn't a bunch of picking going on. In this same 20 V 20 furball, there isn't 20 1 V 1's going on. There isn't a guy in the MA who ups fighters who doesn't pick, not a single one.
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #46 on: December 30, 2008, 10:14:46 AM »
Okay okay, something I just thought of. 

Situation:

You get in a fight with one of my friends.   More and more it looks like you're getting the better of him, and soon his fighter will be a burning hulk heading for terra firma. 

The new dicta is that I let you kill him, acheive maneuvering speed and only then I can attack? 

Sorry, Gracie.  Say goodnight.

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From Oldman above, "The essence of picking is that you're sneaking up on someone and shooting him before he can fight back.  If your goal in the game is to amass kills or points, fine, one kill is the same as another."

Thats the hypocritical paradox here, Yes you should let the furballer get his kill so that he can amass kills or points.



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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #47 on: December 30, 2008, 10:19:14 AM »

Everybody picks.  Furballers are pickers. In a furball of say, 20 V 20, you are lying to your self and everyone else if you think there isn't a bunch of picking going on. In this same 20 V 20 furball, there isn't 20 1 V 1's going on. There isn't a guy in the MA who ups fighters who doesn't pick, not a single one.
Aye but the furballers are not flying around the edges at warp speed. They are in it.
Do I pick, have I picked, will I pick again? It would be a lie to say no.  Do I rely on it as my mainstay....hardly.
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #48 on: December 30, 2008, 10:23:14 AM »
Okay okay, something I just thought of. 

Situation:

You get in a fight with one of my friends.   More and more it looks like you're getting the better of him, and soon his fighter will be a burning hulk heading for terra firma. 

The new dicta is that I let you kill him, acheive maneuvering speed and only then I can attack? 

Sorry, Gracie.  Say goodnight.
Where did I say you shouldn't...if it is red it is dead.  Still don't see how it wasn't a pick. The negative connotation you impose yourself. It is what it is.... a pick.
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #49 on: December 30, 2008, 10:29:56 AM »
Aye but the furballers are not flying around the edges at warp speed. They are in it.
Do I pick, have I picked, will I pick again? It would be a lie to say no.  Do I rely on it as my mainstay....hardly.

I realize I was speaking in absolutes but I am getting to a point. What we really have here is a discussion on a pretty subjective topic. We are talking about players who "rely on  it as a mainstay". Well, this is pretty hard to determine. One can submit anecdotal evidence to suggest someone is a "full time" picker. Do any of us fly around a particular player enough to declare with authority that someone is in deed a full time picker? I'd say in some cases, "yes". In most cases, I think not.


 I've been called picker tons of times for shooting a guy who wasn't engaged... just wasn't looking.  I've also been called picker for having alt over a pack of bad guys and roping/vert fighting them  to death.

Of this I am certain: many many people in the MA don't know the correct definition of "pick".
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #50 on: December 30, 2008, 10:30:25 AM »
Where did I say you shouldn't...if it is red it is dead.  Still don't see how it wasn't a pick. The negative connotation you impose yourself. It is what it is.... a pick.

Wasn't aimed at you specifically, more of a "you" as in "y'all".  

Back to the point at hand- me clearing a friend's six is a good thing.  It's a GREAT thing if the guy has some major perkies he's looking to land.  

But for "you", not so much, as my Pony is screaming in at 500 mph, you're totally unaware and suddenly your right wing files for divorce.  

Because you didn't know, I'm suddenly a sneaky lowlife bastard performing the equivalent of a dark alley mugging.  

I'm just trying to get the idea here.  It seems absolutely retarded to me.  

You're on my friend, I kill you, you scream at me because I'm a sneaky no skill bastard all of a sudden.
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #51 on: December 30, 2008, 10:40:53 AM »

Of this I am certain: many many people in the MA don't know the correct definition of "pick".
There in lies the problem.  :aok
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2008, 10:44:02 AM »
Wasn't aimed at you specifically, more of a "you" as in "y'all".  

Back to the point at hand- me clearing a friend's six is a good thing.  It's a GREAT thing if the guy has some major perkies he's looking to land.  

But for "you", not so much, as my Pony is screaming in at 500 mph, you're totally unaware and suddenly your right wing files for divorce.  

Because you didn't know, I'm suddenly a sneaky lowlife bastard performing the equivalent of a dark alley mugging.  

I'm just trying to get the idea here.  It seems absolutely retarded to me.  

You're on my friend, I kill you, you scream at me because I'm a sneaky no skill bastard all of a sudden.

If that is the connotation you get from it... so be it. I myself would probably be chuckling to myself all the way back to base.
Just a new outlook on the game I have.
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #53 on: December 30, 2008, 10:46:24 AM »
If that is the connotation you get from it... so be it. I myself would probably be chuckling to myself all the way back to base.
Just a new outlook on the game I have.

Chuckling away indeed  :lol

Seems like that's the consensus, though.  Picking is a big bad no no!  :t
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #54 on: December 30, 2008, 10:59:16 AM »
Get em' Rebel
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #55 on: December 30, 2008, 10:59:42 AM »
Chuckling away indeed  :lol

Seems like that's the consensus, though.  Picking is a big bad no no!  :t
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #56 on: December 30, 2008, 11:10:43 AM »
Okay okay, something I just thought of. 

Situation:

You get in a fight with one of my friends.   More and more it looks like you're getting the better of him, and soon his fighter will be a burning hulk heading for terra firma. 

The new dicta is that I let you kill him, acheive maneuvering speed and only then I can attack? 

Sorry, Gracie.  Say goodnight.

I've told guys to stay out even if the guy I'm turning with is getting getting the edge on me.  I've been asked bhy people to stay out when they are in the same situation.

The joy of the cartoon air combat world, is that I can learn from every fight and every mistake as my life is not really on the line.  If I need someone to 'save' me every time, then I don't have as many opportunities to push the envelope of my cartoon flying skills, or lack therof.

Would this happen in a Scenario where a virtual life means something?  Nope.  But in the MA where it means nothing, you bet it will happen.  In the end it's all a matter of perspective.

If you get your kicks out of flying as a picker, and get your fun from that then go for it.  As I don't really die, it just doesn't matter.

Will I be impressed by it?  Probably not.  But then again, what I think really doesn't matter anyway :)
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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #57 on: December 30, 2008, 11:16:35 AM »
The guys who I get a laugh out of are the ones who are famous for hovering or coming in near the end of a hoard (we all know who they are), who scream bloody murder on 200 when they get picked  :lol

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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #58 on: December 30, 2008, 11:21:11 AM »
The guys who I get a laugh out of are the ones who are famous for hovering or coming in near the end of a hoard (we all know who they are), who scream bloody murder on 200 when they get picked  :lol

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Re: Cherry Picker
« Reply #59 on: December 30, 2008, 11:41:51 AM »
So when do we eliminate lets see the 51, most of the 190s and any other plane that cant turn with the furballers, or should we try and dogfight them against packs of 38's spits and La's? 

I got it lets setup an arena for them. But no that wouldn't be historical, besides then they would pick with other planes, lets just fly them low then people can say look at that idiot in the 51 on the deck yummy lets go jump him. Then they can still feel wiser and smarter though.

No, lets just wait for another like plane to come along and hope some furballer in a spit16 doesn't come along. 

Use them to their strengths, no then I'm a picker they'll brand me geez what do I do.

I got it, play by their rules, no that wont work then I have to check in with them before I fly and see which hypocritical mood their in. 

Wow this is getting complicated sorta takes the fun out of it.



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