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Defiance
« on: December 30, 2008, 06:30:02 PM »
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Re: Defiance
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2008, 08:16:35 PM »
james bond has a time machine and is jewish?
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Re: Defiance
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2008, 12:01:18 AM »
Dang looks really good I wonder if its true, it didnt say but it said the story you didnt hear about or something like that
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Re: Defiance
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2008, 12:38:46 AM »
Awsome, looks like being James Bond helped Daniel Craig.

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Re: Defiance
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 02:50:44 AM »
I saw the preview for this last week.  Wanting to see more about the movie, I went to the website and read about the back story.  http://www.defiancemovie.com/

I understand that this is a "Hollywood" movie and that the facts are sometimes way off from being historically accurate.  One thing that bothered me was most of the books I've read about regarding the uprisings in Poland by the Jews and the Polish underground, none of them ever mentioned these groups joining the Soviets in attacks against the Germans. 

Here is one reference that I found I would like to share with everyone:http://www.warsawuprising.com/faq.htm

There is a difference between the Warsaw Uprising and the Ghetto Uprising.  I believe that the movie does accomplish one thing though, it brings to light an event in history that has mostly been forgotten. 

I intend on seeing this movie for myself.  I just hope that it's not disappointing.
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Re: Defiance
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2008, 04:16:02 AM »
This is one of a bunch of good movies coming out soon (Gran Torino looks good too).

I've been anticipating its release since I put the poster up for it at work last month.

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Re: Defiance
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 09:56:41 AM »
Dang looks really good I wonder if its true, it didnt say but it said the story you didnt hear about or something like that

Yup its based on a true story about the brothers organizing the defence and escape of a large group of Jews. I figure it will be FAR better than Tom's movie.
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Re: Defiance
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 10:57:53 AM »
yeah i saw a preview for this in theaters when i was going to see valkriye, this looks way cool.

There is a difference between the Warsaw Uprising and the Ghetto Uprising.  I believe that the movie does accomplish one thing though, it brings to light an event in history that has mostly been forgotten. 

have you ever seen the pianist? Just an amazing film, one of my favorites of all time and it shows I believe the Ghetto Uprising... it might be the other one, but it shows a counter attack against the Germans, I suggest The Pianist for everyone, just fantantasic, truly amazing movie, I believe it's a true story too, not sure.
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Re: Defiance
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 10:06:27 PM »
have you ever seen the pianist? Just an amazing film, one of my favorites of all time and it shows I believe the Ghetto Uprising... it might be the other one, but it shows a counter attack against the Germans, I suggest The Pianist for everyone, just fantantasic, truly amazing movie, I believe it's a true story too, not sure.

Yes.  That was also based on a true story.  Another fantastic movie.
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Re: Defiance
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2009, 12:00:59 AM »
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Re: Defiance
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2009, 02:14:36 AM »
I'm looking forward to seeing it. Thanks for the link :salute
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Re: Defiance
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2009, 05:34:42 AM »
yeah i saw a preview for this in theaters when i was going to see valkriye, this looks way cool.

have you ever seen the pianist? Just an amazing film, one of my favorites of all time and it shows I believe the Ghetto Uprising... it might be the other one, but it shows a counter attack against the Germans, I suggest The Pianist for everyone, just fantantasic, truly amazing movie, I believe it's a true story too, not sure.

Other then the fact it was directed by a guy who once gave a 13yo girl wine and quaaludes and then raped her.

Lately he's been the Euro-poster boy for all thats wrong with America and her justice system. The French have shielded him and befriended him.

And thats a true story about Roman Polanski.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2009, 09:42:13 AM »
Isn't he the guy that filmed Cold Mountain - A movie set in the US CIVIL WAR - in fricken Romania?
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2009, 07:31:27 PM »
Good movie.  Switches between Russian, subtitled, and english.  I thought it was a nice touch.  Has Stookas and a 1 Panzer mk III with what looks like a pipe for a barrel.

Good flik.  No british accents. 


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Re: Defiance
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2009, 08:39:54 PM »
ya know something that really irritates me as of late is all the WWII movies that all carry a jewish plight undertone.

dont get me wrong, what happened to them was horrible, it never should have happened and it shall be a blight upon the german race for many years to come. these things i acknowledge and understand so there is no need to remind me of them in this thread.

my point is that many people struggled against the nazi occupation of their lands and they were heroes in their own rights, but because they had nothing to do with the jewish plight their stories go untold by the american mass media (movies ect). i find this to be deplorable.

were those involved in the french resistance less brave? had it not been for their efforts D-Day would have never been possible.

what about the russian civilians trapped in stalingrad during the german siege. they had no food no weapons no heat they lived in tunnels and basements their own government had written them off as an acceptable loss, but still they gave no aid to the german soldiers.

what about the yugoslavians, theirs i believe was one of the biggest undergrounds and eventually turned into an actual military force.

i again repeat, what happened to the jewish people was disgusting and horrific, but there are other stories that should be told also. WWII was not about only the jews, many others sacrificed everything, including their lives. they have earned the right to be acknowledged.

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