Respect - Honor - Fair Play

[LYNX]

Why do I keep reading this thread as.... Respect - Honor - Four Play ?  <walks off>  Hey Fraud mate .....I wanna have a word with you about something.

[FireDrgn]

Easily possible to get 25 kills without stealing kills, If youre flynig a p51. Now if he got 100+ in a p40b, then you start wondering

Lets be real about this there is no way he got 25 1v1  ..  Your missing the point anyways...

[iTunes]

Speaking for myself here: I'll never ho, I don't run, I'll fight anu odds anywhere, anytime, win or lose, it's all about the fight in my book.

[Getback]

I'll fight any odds anywhere, anytime, win or lose, it's all about the fight in my book.

He will!


Ooops, had to modify it a bit or it looked bad. 

[Joker2]

Nothing is better than allowing a superior performing Spit16 to dive on my 38 and eventually wearing him down to the point I can get a guns solution on him. It is a high beyond measure!

If you only engage when you have the advantage, you will find yourself meat any time you do not have that advantage. Do you want to be the hunter or the hunted? Sometimes, the hunter isn't the guy with the better plane and more altitude...

I agree with you here delirium.
I also enjoy the furball and the good fights, problem is that most only engage from superior position and ultimately turn the fight into a HO match.

I can't count the amount of times i have reversed a Spixteen with alt only to get HO'ed by him or some just off the field Hurri or more often than not some 500mph partially compressed pony looking for the easy kill.

I would rather die during a furball than have someone come save me.

The problem is that alot of people some have posted in here and i won't name names in an effort to curtail the mudslinging, spend 30 minutes climbing to 30k then BNZ engaged targets and then pound their chests on 200 about how they shot you down or blame your SA or some other BS that suites them at that moment.

I can count on 1 hand the amount of people who play this game that actually have honor.
Most act like or are children I myself have been sucked into this behavior in the past.
But i have recently refrained as much as possible from engageing channel 200.

Then even when someone does call you out 9 out of 10 use some excuse to get out of the DA?
So they can continue to run their mouths. It is this type of behavior which ruins the game.

I love this game the challenges the strategy the victory and the defeat.
But to say that the only way to take base is NOE or by hording and vulching and to mock that publicly and then the first base i up from is currently being vulched by those same anti horde anti vulch people who expressed their displeasure because it was them getting vulched or horded, but when shoe is on the other foot it's all good.

I don't know if i have made any sense?

soooo many things to say i don't think i can cover them all but just my oppinion.

tell me how you feel.

[waystin2]

What I find more annoying is that the "friendlies" will avoid any high con like the plague.  Until after someone with some nads works the bogie until they gain the upperhand 1v1.  Then all the bottomfeeders suddenly want to join in and start shoulder shooting.

Too true Sir.  I always will engage or attempt to engage the biggest threat.  Usually this is the enemy con with the most altitude.  This had led to some of my funnest fights and my biggest disappointments.  The disappointment comes from working uphill for 5 minutes or more, fighting the con all the way down, and then receiving the unwanted help of 5 or more countrymen shoulder shooting at a nice slow target.  I just tell them that they need to start buttering their own rolls!

[Getback]

tell me how you feel.

Fairly much the same. Except I hate losing but I like to learn but to learn I sometimes have to lose. Which I hate. Might be a vicious circle here. Sometimes I believe people seem to be genetically encoded to fly the way they do. I don't fly the way I did in AW for sure. This game is way more complicated than that. Still though I see people flying the exact way they did in AW. I guess the KISS concept is in effect.

My personal feelings are fly the way you enjoy the game and understand that there is no honorable way to get a kill. Like Delerium I enjoy the uphill fight and if I win, and that is seldom, it is immensley satisfying. Still I see no need to boast about it. I don't know if the guy had stick issues or if that was the first time he flew that plane or if his wife went running through the house naked or whatever the issue.

As far as 200 is concerned I pretty much monitor it but say little and boast less. The only time I semi boasted was when I was in a lancaster bombing a vh. A spit came in and I shot him down. Then he came back and had to fly over a sector to do it. By that time I was heading home. When he ins me he crashes into my buffs and loses a wing. I told him over 200 that revenge is no good for him. 

[bongaroo]

Some of the "Better Sticks" in the game that can kick butt in 1v1's  are often the 3rd or 4th guy on the lone con..
Some of the  better sticks in this game are the ones to blame for the suckage that goes on.  They spend as much time pissing people off as the newbies do.  The difference is the newbies are ignorant of the dweebness....If the good sticks are doing it why learn any differant....


The good sticks are more guilty of the kill still... and the gang than any noob in the MA...

The good sticks are the ones that are always there picking you when your in the rolling scissors with someone.....

The good sticks never break off and let you have a 1v1.....

The Ma Sucks because of the Good sticks just as much as the noobs.  You all dont hold your self's to any higher standard than the newbs.....

I would like to tell you that it blows my mind that the good sticks come in here and rant about honor and respect..... I say BS  you liars......

Shut up or I will just start posting videos of the lameness....


I can remember the list of good sticks that show respect in this game and this list is real short............

Its because of players like Urchin that I have respect for, that I have learned respect for others in this game... Because of him and those like him I know its ok to lets someone have a 1v1.  I know its ok to let a smoking 205 that just kicked uncle to land with his 3 victories...and the list goes on....



<S>  FireDrgn

I really really really want some of the people who always spout off that the vets and good sticks that are themselves performing these actions to show us some names, or even better video evidence.

I think the first problem we are experiencing is what determines a "vet" or good stick.  I know how I decide who a good stick is and what constitutes a "vet".  Problem is I have no idea how you are deciding this.

I see a good stick as one who avoids the HO for a clean merge.  A good stick doesn't jump into a fight to become the 3rd or 4th chasing a single red guy.  A good stick doesn't run multiple sectors avoiding a fight.  A good stick knows how useless much of the score page is.  A good stick doesn't start PMing people to start cursing them out over loosing a fight.  A good stick doesn't need to stay in ENY 5 planes to win a fight and usually won't be found in one.  (Funny that what I consider a good stick doesn't even involve landing huge numbers of kills or capturing the most bases, huh?)

By this criteria everything you just accused vets or good sticks of doing in fact shows me that they are not good sticks and as such you shouldn't be emulating their behaviors to become a "good stick".

Make sense?

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I can't count the amount of times i have reversed a Spixteen with alt only to get HO'ed by him or some just off the field Hurri or more often than not some 500mph partially compressed pony looking for the easy kill.

Perhaps I'm confusing you with another Joker cpid, but I can't count the amount of times I have had to chase you a long ways just to see you attempt the roll with forward stick defense.  So lame.  Why would you complain of others equally dweeby flying?

[FALCONWING]

Calm down !!! I think it is you who should try reading a bit more here.

This is the quote I quoted...
I was agreeing with you, and the bold section as it happens to fit with what I posted which was "too many people follow the horde", which then brings the statement of "why would anybody want to be the 15th person in on a fight".

you then start your post off with this....

and follow it up with....


so which is it...do you know my name or not ???

For the record I was talking about A26 which is NOT on the mainland, and I'm guessing happened much earlier in the day.  It was Jokers for the most part and one other squad that had big numbers on at the same time for the Bish.

If you read back I havn't picked on any squad, nor running missions...other than the kids squads running NOE after NOEs as their main attack. I even complimented your squad on the well run ops that I have run into complaining only that you seem to concentrate your numbers in one spot....taking the fun away from the defenders. Thats one of the reasons I stopped running missions as the CO of the Mafia. It was getting too hard to run missions that were both fun for the squad with out being a "griefer" to the other teams.

I agree, in the old days the numbers were smaller so it made things a bit more intimate, you had a pretty good idea who was coming or who was likely to be defending when you attacked. I think with the bigger numbers it could still happen, but it would take a bit more work. A good example is the fight I was talking about at A26. In stead of the Jokers AND the other squad they were working with hitting each base together with over whelming force, they could have split their forces and had the Jokers hit the Rooks, and the other squad hit the Knights. More fights, more even numbers better time had by all, right?

I've played these games for over 10 years. Started as MDJOE in AW before it was called "classic", then here once AW close as MDJOE untill Tour 65 when I changed my name to Fugitive. Some call me Fugi  I couldn't care less if "your not even aware of me". I fly to have fun. The squad I'm in is just a bunch of guys out to tell jokes and shoot down planes. This thread was started to get a conversation going about what we think might be considered Respect- Honor - and fair play. I've posted my thoughts....you posted your uninformed rants ... well done     

If I misinterpreted your intent with your post then i sincerely apologize....I do remember mdjoe btw

[Joker2]

Bongaroo i don't know ur in game id but i can tell u this. if had to chase i was probably out of fuel rtb or winchester.
And lets face it u probably jumped my six after i shot one of ur buddies down.
So who is lame really?

Chaseing a plane RTB, cuz you yourself are probably exactly what i'm talking about.

But u will try to use my comments against me.

I can tell u this also i have never ducked a DA, and if i do i will say no point u r better than me.

Many people have beat me in DA i always admit to it.

Most i beat lie when they get back to MA.

So in closing I will say same i always say stop whining STFU or take me to DA.
Any1 who wants some knows where to find me.

[bongaroo]

Bongaroo i don't know ur in game id but i can tell u this. if had to chase i was probably out of fuel rtb or winchester.
And lets face it u probably jumped my six after i shot one of ur buddies down.
So who is lame really?

Chaseing a plane RTB, cuz you yourself are probably exactly what i'm talking about.

But u will try to use my comments against me.

I can tell u this also i have never ducked a DA, and if i do i will say no point u r better than me.

Many people have beat me in DA i always admit to it.

Most i beat lie when they get back to MA.

So in closing I will say same i always say stop whining STFU or take me to DA.
Any1 who wants some knows where to find me.

I'll be sure to ask you to the DA when we meet again.  Also my in game is posted in my sig.  420ace in case you miss that again.

[chrish483]

without reading every thing in this post,
i think theres alot of honor with the people that have play'd for along time and have gotten to know the names of the people.

like i like to yank the chain of SHawk once in awile all in fun tho or even one shot Wonder,  these are long time players and i respect them.

alot of it is just playing the game and getting to know the other players and there abilities <and> keep  a cool head and just try to out think them.

im probly hated too for shooting down alot of you guys,  but thats what were here for,  the fun and chalenge of it and forget that aspect of this game,   want something simple buy one and beat the game in a week or so but this game is truly fun.

LTARsmkr

[Joker2]

I'll be sure to ask you to the DA when we meet again.  Also my in game is posted in my sig.  420ace in case you miss that again.

Aren't you the lamer tiffie picktard?
Or is it a pony lamer.

[ink]

...I see a good stick as one who avoids the HO for a clean merge.  A good stick doesn't jump into a fight to become the 3rd or 4th chasing a single red guy.  A good stick doesn't run multiple sectors avoiding a fight.  A good stick knows how useless much of the score page is.  A good stick doesn't start PMing people to start cursing them out over loosing a fight.  A good stick doesn't need to stay in ENY 5 planes to win a fight and usually won't be found in one.  (Funny that what I consider a good stick doesn't even involve landing huge numbers of kills or capturing the most bases, huh?)...

 

thank-you by this definition I am the epitome of "good stick"
sweeeeet

[bongaroo]

Aren't you the lamer tiffie picktard?
Or is it a pony lamer.

You could check my stats.  I mostly fly the Ki-84 or the P-38J.  I dabble with other planes as well.  Betty tried to get me to fly that typhoon but I don't like it that much.  I don't fly the pony that much either.

But good try...   

thank-you by this definition I am the epitome of "good stick"
sweeeeet

Pretty much.  Hope to see you up in the cartoon skies sometime.