Bomber Gunners a WAY too Uber in AH

[Knfe]

I think the modeling for bomber gunners in AH is fine.  From a historical perspective it seems to hold true.  In my prior life as an AF fighter pilot, we trained against B-52s making mock gun attacks with F-15s.  I find the similarity in success/failure very similar.  Same things that worked there work in AH and in WWII:  high deflection raking inplane gun pass pulling lead and firing from nose to tail on bomber, then quick reversal and get out of there!  Stagnate your attack inside gun range, you die!  

[MrLars]

I think the few here who have had the opportunity to fire an M2 will agree...

Muzzle bounce and it's effect are not modeled. This is, IMO, the reason why bomber gunners have the success that they now enjoy.
It's modeled in the Panzer and Ostys main guns and should be included in bombers, especially for the Waist and Chin positions. That's just my opinion...your mileage may vary.

Lars

[This message has been edited by MrLars (edited 11-18-2000).]

[LJK Raubvogel]

You got a point there Lars.

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[KetteJG26]

I agree Lars.  Not modeling weapon recoil on a flexible mount would make them much more accurate.

[Gadfly]

You want to complain about recoil, but the B29 fire control is OK?  That seems a lil whacked to me.

Lizking

[Major Tom]

Most of the bomber pilots flying these days are uber.  Catching an idiot in a bomber is not only rare, it is a sacred thing.  On my last tour I had better than 2:1 vs fighters in a B-26.  On a good sortie I will get four fighters.

Lone Buffs did very well against fighters in the pacific, 2:1 regularly, 4:1 on occasion.  Buffs in bomber formations suffer, we don't have these kind of problems in aces high  

In the last tour I had 3 kills and zero losses vs buffs.  This tour I'm breaking even, in past tours I'v gotten 6:1 and 10:3 vs B-17's.

Attacking at B-26 is near suicide since nine times out of ten the buff pilot is uber.  The only cure for the uber B-26 is the already uber C-hog with turbolaser hispano's.  Attacking in most any other aircraft is suicide.