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Offline Anaxogoras

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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2009, 07:07:10 PM »
I like where you're going with this but what if you miss with your bombs? You are locked into fighter mode?  A better idea would be that you MUST take up ordnance in attack mode.  Sure you could game it then by just dropping your ord as you take off but that would kill your bomb %.  :aok It would only be practical for scorer or whatever to fly in the proper mode each time. 

That's a good criticism, and I like your idea.  But then what about aircraft like the Yak-9T that can't take a bomb but which are useful for ground attack nonetheless?

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As things are now, attack gunnery % is still, and always will be, easy to manipulate.
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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2009, 07:21:38 PM »
That's a good criticism, and I like your idea.  But then what about aircraft like the Yak-9T that can't take a bomb but which are useful for ground attack nonetheless?
As things are now, attack gunnery % is still, and always will be, easy to manipulate.

Well, you could make exceptions to the rule for planes like the Yak-9T.  The IL2 also so if you want to strafe in attack and not in bomber, you can record kills that way.  Other than the yakt and the k4 maybe?...I don't think there are any fighters that don't have an ord package but can still be flown in attack mode.

Just looked and found a couple more, bf109e4 and edit bf109f4.  You could just make them fighter only planes like the C205.  Carrying a drop tank shouldn't define an attack plane imo.  It should be its ability to carry bombs.
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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2009, 07:26:11 PM »
I don't think there are any fighters that don't have an ord package but can still be flown in attack mode.

109E-4
109F-4
109K-4
Ta 152
Yak-9T
Spitfire V
Spitfire IX
Hurricane IID
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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2009, 07:29:12 PM »
109E-4
109F-4
109K-4
Ta 152
Yak-9T
Spitfire V
Spitfire IX
Hurricane IID


Larger list than I expected, what do you think though Lusche of requiring ord to fly in attack with exceptions maybe of the planes listed above?
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« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2009, 07:34:37 PM »
Larger list than I expected, what do you think though Lusche of requiring ord to fly in attack with exceptions maybe of the planes listed above?

Most importantly I think it should just be uniformly.
Right now we have 7 fighters without ords that can score as "fighter" only, and 8 that can score as fighter/attacker. I do not know what makes the TA-152 a fighter/attacker and the C205 not.
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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2009, 07:40:49 PM »
Most importantly I think it should just be uniformly.
Right now we have 7 fighters without ords that can score as "fighter" only, and 8 that can score as fighter/attacker. I do not know what makes the TA-152 a fighter/attacker and the C205 not.

I suspect it's its ability to carry a drop tank, where as the C205 cannot carry one.  I pointed out a couple posts ago that what defines an attacker should be its ability to carry bombs, not drop tanks.

<edit> well shoot, i just looked at the hurri d and that can't carry a DT so I'm wrong.  Yeah that makes no sense.

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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2009, 07:45:49 PM »

<edit> well shoot, i just looked at the hurri d and that can't carry a DT so I'm wrong.  Yeah that makes no sense.

Nah, it makes a lot of sense.. the Hurri D with 40mm guns was a ground attacker by design, not a fighter.
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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2009, 07:49:22 PM »
didn't read all the posts, so here goes,,
 i hate it when i get a good score on the first day of the month,
 it ruins my play for the next 4 or 5 days
to really have fun, or to be a score monger is the question?
 i like too Finnish out the month with a good score but hate to play for score during that time!
 this month i started out the first day with a 9 to 1 kill in fighters, 10 to 1 in gv's, kill to death rate of 255 per hour in gv's, so with those stats do i stop playing and wait for my name to go up in lights?
 no i play on thru and destroy those numbers, with every sortie,
 i wonder all the time how the # 1 score guys have any fun?
 sometimes i even like when my score is bad,, like last month in fighters, that way i can work on why it is bad and try to improve instead of why it s@ #ks ,, it is also way more fun to fight, and get better, than to try and protect that score!!
 most of the long time players know how to get the big score ,, yet they choose to just play the game, and be happy with  what they get, but make no mistake,, almost all of them watch there score, even if they don't admit it, some just do it to see if they are improving!
 my first month in AH i scored 24 kills and died 68 times   ( roughly) as wt outlaw, tour 71 i think,
 by tour 85  i was killing more than i was dieing


 even tho i am 1or 2 in mid in gv's every month, in mid war,, i would miss the true fun of the game if i tried to be #1, all the time in every part of the game,,, so i just try to be at least 1 to 1 or better in fighters and just hope for good gv fights, i don't even try to work on score unless its halfway thru the month and i am in the top 5 or so in gv's and even then,, its just a coin toss if i do get there!!
 most of the guy's i see with there name in lights,, i never see in combat? when do they play ? and where do they go ?
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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2009, 10:25:24 PM »
some day someone will have to explain to me what flying smart is.  I'm hoping smart isn't running to ack, running from fight, and flying in horde :)
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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2009, 01:47:52 AM »
some day someone will have to explain to me what flying smart is.  I'm hoping smart isn't running to ack, running from fight, and flying in horde :)

To me SMART is as follows:  Keeping a balance between Aggression, Smart SA and Advantage over your opponents especially against greater numbers = Living to tell about it...

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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2009, 02:16:45 PM »
So where does my habit of flying through hangers at enemy bases fall on that chart.  :rofl
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Re: The True meaning of YOUR Score..:)
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2009, 05:01:45 PM »
So where does my habit of flying through hangers at enemy bases fall on that chart.  :rofl

 pretty low on the smart chart!! very high on the fun chart!!
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