Hoing defined ?

[BlauK]

 

[CAP1]

If a hotard HOs and kills you, which one of you is the real "tard"?

the skillless tard that'd die if he missed the ho
 

[Chalenge]

You cant prove anyone is a 'hotard' because you dont know what their last thoughts are (were).

Example: "I better start shooting now because I cant win any other way."

Who would admit to that? 

[CAP1]

You cant prove anyone is a 'hotard' because you dont know what their last thoughts are (were).

Example: "I better start shooting now because I cant win any other way."

Who would admit to that? 

IN ALL SERIOUSNESS....


 i think quite a few have in some of the ho threads.


also........i generally don't.......but will, if you do  first.....like before i've tried whatever evasive......if i'm outnumbered heavily......if i'm defending against a horde........if i'm hurt, and no other shot presents itself......and finally, if i'm comming into a fight, and i happen to know who the other person is, and they're notorious for it. i didn't used to do it at all, but it's getting to the point that if i expect a good fihgt, i'm better off against the AI in offline mode. i've also noted that no one tries to ho in the TA. 

[BaldEagl]

I will whine about a HO if:

The guy tries to HO and only HO repeatedly even if it doesn't work.

A guy appears from nowhere and HO's me while I'm trying valiently to outfly the three other guys on my six.

I'm so low and slow I've momentarily lost manouverability and some tard comes in and HOs me (a HO picker).

It's not always your fault that you got HO'd.  Fights aren't always one on one with E.

[CAP1]

I will whine about a HO if:

The guy tries to HO and only HO repeatedly even if it doesn't work.

A guy appears from nowhere and HO's me while I'm trying valiently to outfly the three other guys on my six.

I'm so low and slow I've momentarily lost manouverability and some tard comes in and HOs me (a HO picker).

It's not always your fault that you got HO'd.  Fights aren't always one on one with E.

heh....

i had a guy in a spit9...i think it was last tour. me in a 38. 4 ho attempts. he could've easily outmaneuvered me, but insisted on the ho instead. on pass#4, i ho'd him back. we both died. 

[BnZs]

IMO,
If you are merging/remerging and both fighters could put their nose on and fire with no problems, then they probably shouldn't, unless its a truly desperate situation for one of them (190A8 vs. La7 or the like). The outcome is just too likely to be unproductive for anyone.

Obviously there is a fuzzy area here, situations like scissors or high deflection shots it will occasionally be debatable.

People do however, exaggerate the ease with which a HO can be avoided. With some diving room or plenty of E to work with, can be done most of the time. In a slow fight on the deck, the MA being what it is, you should hose them down in return if they force you to it, to make sure the other guy doesn't get a scot-free kill.

[WMLute]

People do however, exaggerate the ease with which a HO can be avoided. With some diving room or plenty of E to work with, can be done most of the time. In a slow fight on the deck, the MA being what it is, you should hose them down in return if they force you to it, to make sure the other guy doesn't get a scot-free kill.

I merge nose to nose and am ho'd at 1000's of times each tour.

I can generally count on one hand how many times I actually get shot down by said ho'r.  (probably two hands how many damage me to some degree, but it's super rare)

It's remarkably EASY to use their poor choice of maneuver against them and end up 1/2 around to their six before they have let off the trigger.  It takes practice, and timin', but really it is not hard to accomplish.  (I also love how most people that ho have not a clue what to do 'next' if the ho fails)

[BnZs]

I merge nose to nose and am ho'd at 1000's of times each tour.

I can generally count on one hand how many times I actually get shot down by said ho'r.  (probably two hands how many damage me to some degree, but it's super rare)

It's remarkably EASY to use their poor choice of maneuver against them and end up 1/2 around to their six before they have let off the trigger.  It takes practice, and timin', but super easy to do.  (especially because most people that ho have not a clue what to do 'next' if the ho fails.

They've been getting more accurate since I started playing. What you say about them missing used to be true for me most of the time too. The *practiced* HOer is now a fact in AHII.

[CAP1]

I merge nose to nose and am ho'd at 1000's of times each tour.

I can generally count on one hand how many times I actually get shot down by said ho'r.  (probably two hands how many damage me to some degree, but it's super rare)

It's remarkably EASY to use their poor choice of maneuver against them and end up 1/2 around to their six before they have let off the trigger.  It takes practice, and timin', but really it is not hard to accomplish.  (I also love how most people that ho have not a clue what to do 'next' if the ho fails)

could you then post some films of you doing this? to help those of us that aren;t as succesful at it as you are?


thanks!!

[awrabbit]

Um... Im a Ho and people say im a tard..... OMG im a HoTard.... Oops wrong forum 

Honestly I  just try to avoid the head on merge all together it is a a low percentage shot with a higher percentage of a collision.  I think the slight delay in the connection might play a little bit of a roll in the Ho situation? perhaps some of the experts could elaborate more on this ?

As I said above I try to avoid the HO shot but if forced and I see tracers I will try to mess up any chance of a firing solution anyway that I can . 

worse than the HO is some jerk that kills you in your chute.... that is really lame  and both used to really be bad form and you only really saw this kind of thing from new people  or others that lacked skill and honor.


Rabbit

[DaddyAck]

Bah, to HO as a preferred tactic unless against a BUFF is not my style.  I prefer to fly with a wingman that I know and trust and employ BnZ tactics against our foes.  I am also VERY fond of using Drag and Bag with a trusted wingman, of couse with icons on it makes it a tougher task to pull off. However given the ammount of target fixation that occurs regularly it still works well.

[BlauK]

I will whine about a HO if:

The guy tries to HO and only HO repeatedly even if it doesn't work.

A guy appears from nowhere and HO's me while I'm trying valiently to outfly the three other guys on my six.

I'm so low and slow I've momentarily lost manouverability and some tard comes in and HOs me (a HO picker).

It's not always your fault that you got HO'd.  Fights aren't always one on one with E.

I would see no reason for whining myself.

Case 1) If that is all the enemy is capable of attempting, I'd place myself at his 6 after 2nd or 3rd pass and shoot him down.

Case 2) I'd be in bad situation against 3 enemies and would be just happy to risk that one HO kill offered to me. Better to get that and die than get nothing and die.

Case 3) Again I'd laugh my butt off for getting the chance to shoot back at the enemy while helpless myself and about to die

If/when I get shot at, why would I rather get the hit from behind than from HO? If I am almost finished anyway, the enemy who allows a HO is taking stupid risks

Everyone is in control of their own HO situations. Do not play a victim and admit that the enemy can control you and your actions so much that "you get HOed"

[drdeathx]

[BaldEagl]

I would see no reason for whining myself.

Case 1) If that is all the enemy is capable of attempting, I'd place myself at his 6 after 2nd or 3rd pass and shoot him down.

Case 2) I'd be in bad situation against 3 enemies and would be just happy to risk that one HO kill offered to me. Better to get that and die than get nothing and die.

Case 3) Again I'd laugh my butt off for getting the chance to shoot back at the enemy while helpless myself and about to die

If/when I get shot at, why would I rather get the hit from behind than from HO? If I am almost finished anyway, the enemy who allows a HO is taking stupid risks

Everyone is in control of their own HO situations. Do not play a victim and admit that the enemy can control you and your actions so much that "you get HOed"

Then you are simply adding to the problems that exist in the MA's today, especially in scenario #2.  If no one rags on these dweebs then they will continue to think that thier actions are acceptable.