Modest Plane Perk Enabled By Pilot Time in Game

[FYB]

1) No

2) No

Also, how old one player's account is doesn't mean anything. You could still be at "n00b" skill level after 4 years just because you don't have the time to fly more than a few hours per week. Or a "vet" can simply make a new account after 6 months.

Ive been playing for a year and a half and im a nub cake. Its true, i dont play very often. But i have to agree with Lusche.

1) No

2) No

-FYB

[E25280]

Eh, we've all played this game, we all know what the score is.

A fast brick gets frustrating because of the difficulty following things around to shoot them, a turny kite gets frustrating when you can't catch anything or get cornered and bnz'ed to death by 5 of 'em.

Real life, I want the fast plane so I can run to live when it gets too hot, as far as which is more desirable in a game however, I say 6 of one, half-dozen of the other.

What is especially amusing to me is when those in the runstangs get all whiney when the "turny kite" gets a HO shot on them.   

[BnZs]

What is especially amusing to me is when those in the runstangs get all whiney when the "turny kite" gets a HO shot on them.   

There is no sensible reason to HO in any situation where one can survive either by turning or using speed. The *only* way anyone ever survives a HO shot without severe damage/mutual destruction for both parties is that one party was actually trying to avoid it. So, unless you are in really deep and going to be dead soon anyway, there are a million more sensible things you can do. HOing instead of using them is a form of griefing.

[E25280]

There is no sensible reason to HO in any situation where one can survive either by turning or using speed. The *only* way anyone ever survives a HO shot without severe damage/mutual destruction for both parties is that one party was actually trying to avoid it. So, unless you are in really deep and going to be dead soon anyway, there are a million more sensible things you can do. HOing instead of using them is a form of griefing.

Please, then, keep doing your non-griefing by BnZing a turny plane for ten minutes.  If the guy on the receiving end gets bored after three, though, expect a HO.

[BnZs]

Please, then, keep doing your non-griefing by BnZing a turny plane for ten minutes.  If the guy on the receiving end gets bored after three, though, expect a HO.

Looks like someone needs to get back on the ADD meds...

Oh, btw, here is how you shoot down a faster plane b'n'zing you *without* HOing: Generate an overshoot, hit your shot before they get out of range. Simple, though not necessarily easy. But both parties have gunnery difficulties in the E fighter vs. angles fighter match-up.

[E25280]

Looks like someone needs to get back on the ADD meds...

Oh, btw, here is how you shoot down a faster plane b'n'zing you *without* HOing: Generate an overshoot, hit your shot before they get out of range. Simple, though not necessarily easy. But both parties have gunnery difficulties in the E fighter vs. angles fighter match-up.

Now anyone who disagrees with your concept of what qualifies as griefing in the game needs meds . . .

"Simple, though not necessarily easy."

You keep getting funnier!


I have completely lost patience with "safety flyers."  Once I recognize one, I go for the face shot just to get rid of him.  9 times out of 10 they end up running and whining about the mean old target who won't cooperate with him.

[BnZs]

Sorry, but you are the one who comes off as whiny if you believe someone not flying as you wish constitutes a legitimate reason to embrace what is otherwise a frowned-upon and unproductive practice. You can do what you want to of course, I'm just saying that it is not different than going about spraying people on the initial merge.


"You keep getting funnier!"

I guarantee you, give Batfink a Stuka and you take a Tempest or a 262, doesn't matter. He'll still be able to dodge your passes and chew parts off as you go. If I don't have the timing and accuracy to hit back at the guy bnz'ing me like I want to...well that would be MY fault now wouldn't it?

[E25280]

Sorry, but you are the one who comes off as whiny if you believe someone not flying as you wish constitutes a legitimate reason to embrace what is otherwise a frowned-upon and unproductive practice.

In the same breath you "frown upon" how someone else flys, and yet you claim I am the one saying someone shouldn't fly in a way I don't wish?

You're a riot!

I don't care if someone BnZs me all day long.  If I get bored with it, though, he will end up with a face full.  The fact someone else may "frown upon" me for doing so only makes the subsequent whining funnier.

And actually, I find it very productive in certain situations.  If you don't, more power to you.  I wouldn't dream of telling you how you should or shouldn't fly, nor would I call someone a "griefer" for any type of "fighting" style.  I'll leave all of that up to you.   

[BnZs]

It is not so much the HOing, it is the idea that you have some sort of "justification" for it that makes you different from other HOers. Well, sorry no, it is just the same as spraying everything you meet head-on, which one can of course do, its your $15, but like I say, don't kid yourself that its any different.

A good shot in a Spit Mk1 can end your sortie in a HO pass, no matter how many cannons your bird possesses. So therefore, HOing when you have any other option is undeniably stupid. One wonders what you do when you get "bored" with a Typhoon...oh so bravely commit suicide?

And I don't know what you mean "bnz" here. If someone is making one pass at you and heading for the horizon, then you have ample time to extend in the opposite direction in a cruise climb, forcing them to have a longer chase each time they come back-thus gradually equalizing the E. Or in the big picture, you can be gradually moving the fight under friendlies who may have the E to catch the bandit.

Took me perhaps 10 minutes of dodge, refuse to get roped, extend and gain E, to slow this Pony down, equalize the E, and get in the saddle. I suppose I should have gotten "bored" after 3 and just hosed him in the face, probably ending my sortie as well.

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On the other hand, if you *survive* 10 minutes of someone bnz'ing you in the proper manner, you should praise whatever diety has made crooked the aim of a pilot who is otherwise proved your master in aerial maneuvering. Hope it's me and not Widewing, he don't miss... 

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[E25280]

It is not so much the HOing, it is the idea that you have some sort of "justification" for it that makes you different from other HOers. Well, sorry no, it is just the same as spraying everything you meet head-on, which one can of course do, its your $15, but like I say, don't kid yourself that its any different.  Where did I say I was any different?  Just said I've come to a point where I am bored chasing safety flyers.  It annoys me to finally get to a relatively equal altitude and/or speed only to see the runstang dive for the deck and exit.  Complete waste of my time as far as I am concerned.  Ergo, when recognizing the type and if given the opportunity, I will face shoot them.  If they whine about it afterwards, so much the better!

A good shot in a Spit Mk1 can end your sortie in a HO pass, no matter how many cannons your bird possesses. Agreed. So therefore, HOing when you have any other option is undeniably stupid. Why?  Planes are free and no one really dies.  If it amuses me to face shoot a safety flyer, I'll do it!" One wonders what you do when you get "bored" with a Typhoon...oh so bravely commit suicide? Takes no bravery to commit cartoon suicide.  But, if you must know, I don't care what flavor of safety flyer it is -- runstang, run90, run09, runtyph, runtemp, runhog, runjug, makes no difference.

And I don't know what you mean "bnz" here. If someone is making one pass at you and heading for the horizon, then you have ample time to extend in the opposite direction in a cruise climb, forcing them to have a longer chase each time they come back-thus gradually equalizing the E. Or in the big picture, you can be gradually moving the fight under friendlies who may have the E to catch the bandit. See previous response.  Sure, I could do it, but all I end up with afterwards is a runner I can't catch until he dives for and begins circling in his ack. 

Here is the thing you seem to have missed -- for me to get a face shot on him, he has to accept it, being the plane with the alt and speed advantage.  If he pulls off, denying me a shot, goody for him!  But they usually don't -- and they are never guns cold themselves.  Sorry if I don't feel the least bit guilty about returning the favor.   

[BnZs]

"Sure, I could do it,"

Could you? You might have to suppress the urge to honk back on the stick and HO for longer than 3 minutes.

"If he pulls off, denying me a shot, goody for him!"

If he's that smart, then trying to honk and Ho is likely bad choice, kills your chances of equalizing the E. Unless you do something real "cute" like let the other fighter get you within his guns envelope and *then* decide to use a really tight turning radius to swap ends and go kamikaze.


 "...but all I end up with afterwards is a runner I can't catch until he dives for and begins circling in his ack."

Try a faster plane. Besides, I caught the P-51...

[E25280]

"Sure, I could do it,"

Could you? You might have to suppress the urge to honk back on the stick and HO for longer than 3 minutes.
  You seem to have conveniently forgotten where we started -- could do, can do, still do occasionally, but more often than not, not bothering anymore, due to the aforementioned reasons (plus, I admit, most likely a little bit of burn-out).  Try to keep up.

"If he pulls off, denying me a shot, goody for him!"

If he's that smart, then trying to honk and Ho is likely bad choice, kills your chances of equalizing the E. Unless you do something real "cute" like let the other fighter get you within his guns envelope and *then* decide to use a really tight turning radius to swap ends and go kamikaze.Correct -- if he is smart, and if he is actively fighting me -- but then he wouldn't be a "safety flyer" in that circumstance, would he?  Again, try to keep up.


 "...but all I end up with afterwards is a runner I can't catch until he dives for and begins circling in his ack."

Try a faster plane. Besides, I caught the P-51... If I am out to catch runners, sure, I will fly a faster plane.  But I don't go actively hunting runners -- too boring (as I've stated).  So, how about instead I fly what I want and HO the safety flyers when given the chance.  Sound good to you?    Or do you still think that is "griefing?"   

I'll keep watch on 200 for the whining.   

[E25280]

Ahem -- since we have totally hijacked this thread, let me state for the record -- As far as I am concerned, the system is fine the way it is, no need to change it to the OP's wish.