Frame 1 Bougainville Privateers Score

[Squire]

Allied:

Single Engined AC Destroyed- 151 for 302pts
Twin Engined Bombers Destroyed (all Ki-67s)- 39 for 195pts
*Air Total- 190 kills for 497pts*

Ground Targets- 135pts

Ships- 150pts

TOTAL- 782pts

Axis:

Single Engined AC Destroyed- 151 for 302 pts
Twin Engined Bombers Destroyed (all B-25s)- 41 for 205pts
Four Engined Bombers Destroyed (all B-24s)- 16 for 160pts
*Air Total- 208 kills for 667pts*

Ground Targets- 400pts

Ships- 150pts

* %5 penalty for two squads that exceeded the max limit. We need to start getting things under control that way.

TOTAL- 1156 pts

*The telling difference here was the very light destruction of grnd targets by the Allied bombers. The Axis hit many more high value targets such as Bomber, Fighter, and Vehicle Hangers despite having a bomber force with a poorer payload.

[Anaxogoras]

Is it me or did the axis use far more A6M5s than the 120 they were allowed?

# of A6M2 used     85
# of A6M5b used     163

[TheBug]

The Val pilots all got to up A6m5s as a second life.

[Squire]

Fratricide at T+0, plus the D3A "2nd life" does not count towards the 120 max, also anybody spawning a 2nd time for whatever reason, drives the count up in the logs. The penalty assessed includes any over # there might have been, but yes, they were over.

[Anaxogoras]

the D3A "2nd life" does not count towards the 120 max

Ahhh, didn't realize that.

[ImADot]

What about the 15k alt cap for bombers?  I think I saw a number of Ki's over 15k.

[Squire]

I have not seen any evidence that the alt limit was broken by either side, if you have any film, email me at glbold@telus.net but im talking about gross violations, not just a few k of alt. The Ki-67s and other bombers that I saw all were 15k and below.

[ImADot]

That's cool.  No film, and they were within a couple thousand - prolly around 17k or something.

[Stampf]

I have not seen any evidence that the alt limit was broken by either side, if you have any film, email me at glbold@telus.net but im talking about gross violations, not just a few k of alt. The Ki-67s and other bombers that I saw all were 15k and below.

All Allied Bombers (13) encountered here, were below the alt cap.   

And subsequently destroyed as well. 

Nice work Axis. 

[68Wooley]

Tough scenario for the Allies this:

We chose to hold the limited F4Us we had in defense to try and counter the speed of the KI67's. The P38's were mainly on strike missions leaving us P40's and P39's to fill in the gaps on defense and provide escort cover. The P39 was the only fighter aircraft we had unrestricted numbers on and it bore the brunt of our escort duties. It really can't compete with zero's, but we were hoping a wave of 38's and a wave of 39's going in might have driven the defenders low before the Buffs arrived . Guess not.

[Hamltnblue]

The 353rd was definitely below 15K.  We also converted a Cruiser into a submarine, which is now 15k below sea level. 

[Shifty]

Tough scenario for the Allies this:

We chose to hold the limited F4Us we had in defense to try and counter the speed of the KI67's. The P38's were mainly on strike missions leaving us P40's and P39's to fill in the gaps on defense and provide escort cover. The P39 was the only fighter aircraft we had unrestricted numbers on and it bore the brunt of our escort duties. It really can't compete with zero's, but we were hoping a wave of 38's and a wave of 39's going in might have driven the defenders low before the Buffs arrived . Guess not.

Like they say the best plans go to s**t as soon as the shooting starts.
Our squadron of P-39s had the assignment to go in and engage the CAP at A18.
Once over the coast of Bougainville our plan was to sprint ahead of the strike engage the CAP.

Just off the coast Stoney74's P-38s became heavily engaged and did a great job of keeping the Japanese guys away from the the B-24s that were flown by the C-Hawks.
The C-Hawks also had some members flying P-40Es as escort and they were engaged behind the B-24s again doing a great job.
Then more A6M5s and Ki-61s showed up just as we crossed the coastline with the two close escort flights already tied up I made the decision to use our P-39s to try and defend the B-24s instead of sprinting ahead. SpiveyCh's B-24s were near the target and doing a great job of holding formation when I last saw them. We were sooned overwhelmed by A6M2s, A6M5s and a flight of Ki-61s and lost contact.
P-39Ds against A6M2s is a pretty exciting fight. With the A6M5s and Ki-61s we had our hands more than full. The Japanese leadership put up a very good defense plan for their bases.
We'll dust ourselves off and give it another shot next Friday.

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[SmokinLoon]

The B24's were not in the air 5 min when were were pounced on by some rabid zekes.  We had not formed up yet, and I was busy corralling some stray amd newer pilots, and plotting a course when I heard pings hitting my bomber and then a panicked "CHECKSIXCHECKSIXCHECKSIX!" from one of my fellow B24 pilots.  By then, the zeke had taken out my rear gun, top gun, and I was on fire.  I did manage to get some pings on him from the ball turret prior to him breaking off.

Lots of things that need to be discussed to discuss with the Allied commanders.. lots.   


One thing I want to know is why dont the allies whol fly the SBD have the ability to up a P39 for their second life???  If the Allies had the numbers in the Bougainville campaign, and they did, allowing the Japs to up A6m5's for their second aircrafft allows them MORE numbers and not only that, but they are allwoed a very potent package.

I say the allies in teh SBD's should get a second life in a P39.

[Anaxogoras]

The B24's were not in the air 5 min when were were pounced on by some rabid zekes.  We had not formed up yet, and I was busy corralling some stray amd newer pilots, and plotting a course when I heard pings hitting my bomber and then a panicked "CHECKSIXCHECKSIXCHECKSIX!" from one of my fellow B24 pilots.  By then, the zeke had taken out my rear gun, top gun, and I was on fire.  I did manage to get some pings on him from the ball turret prior to him breaking off.

Lots of things that need to be discussed to discuss with the Allied commanders.. lots.   


One thing I want to know is why dont the allies whol fly the SBD have the ability to up a P39 for their second life???  If the Allies had the numbers in the Bougainville campaign, and they did, allowing the Japs to up A6m5's for their second aircrafft allows them MORE numbers and not only that, but they are allwoed a very potent package.

I say the allies in teh SBD's should get a second life in a P39.

I am not a fan of the 2nd life thing in FSO, even when one side already gets the privilege and the other doesn't.  FSO would be a higher quality event if the 2nd life were put in the box of 'ideas that were tried but which failed to increase the immersion.'

[Saxman]

The CM has already changed the second life for the D3As.

The A11 CAP ran into some trouble with altitude and contact times, as well. VMF-251 was assigned to patrol the gap between A12 and A30, which is about half a sector from our launch base (A11). However no sooner do we get into position and are STILL making our way to altitude (we're at 15k, aiming for 25) when we receive a report from the 325th of contact made with the enemy and A12's radar flashing. We shortly after are overflown by Zeros at about 18-20k.

I know the map has limitations with launch base distances, but I'd expect to be able to get at LEAST a sector from base before making contact with the enemy.