F8-F

[Stoney]

The F7F and F8F fit the post-war ("korea", I would say) era.

The F7F is no more relevant to WW2's "feel" or "era" than the Do355 Pfeil, the Horten flying wing, the cross-continental Nazi jet bomber, and many other Luft '46 ideas. None had any impact on the war, and none saw any legit action during the war (not counting LW prototypes).

The F7F is much different than the gadget planes of the Luft '46 group.  Whether or not it has a place in Aces High is a different discussion.

[Baumer]

While I think there are many aircraft that are more urgently needed.

I think there is a case for the F7F and F8F to be included. Looking at the USN historical site specifically the USN aircraft location report for 4 August, 1945 http://www.history.navy.mil/a-record/ww-ii/loc-ac/1945/aug1945/4-8-45.pdf
I was able to find the following;

F8F's
48 F8F-1's with VF-19 at Santa Rosa ready for deployment with the CVG 19 Air Group USS Hornet
1 F8F-1 with CASU5 in San Diego
1 F8F-1 with Flag ComAirPac

for a total of 50 aircraft

F7F's
1 F7F-2P's with VMD-254
6 F7F-3P's with VMD-254
2 F7F-1's with VMFN-531
2 F7F-3's with VMFN-531
11 F7F-2N's with VMFN-531
1 F7F-1 with VMFN-532
3 F7F-3's with VMFN-532
6 F7F-2N's with VMFN-532
1 F7F-1 with VMF-911
1 F7F-1 with VMF-912
5 F7F-3's with VMF-912

for a total of 39 aircraft

While I completely agree that neither saw any combat, they were deployed in squadron strength, and ready for combat before the end of World War II.

Just one other point about the F7F, the 4 20mm cannon's are in the wing root's, only the 4 50cal machine gun's were in the nose.

   Baumer

[AWwrgwy]

While I think there are many aircraft that are more urgently needed.

I think there is a case for the F7F and F8F to be included.

(numbers removed)

Aside from not meeting the criteria for inclusion mandated by the game designer and administrator.....


wrongway

[moot]

Did the P51H see combat?  Because it was in one of the old polls for next AC to add, along with the P47N/M and Ta152.
It's still their game.  They can change the rules and inclusion criteria whenever they want.  I personaly wouldn't ever fly the yaba-daba-dooo contraptions like the Dewotine and spanish civil war biplanes (or whatever; tho I did say the same for the 25H and now it's one of my top 3 favs) but those tickle some people's fun the same way tearing around in late war monsters does it for others.  Adding a couple of each from these extremes along with a majority of more historicaly relevant models isn't going to kill AH, on the contrary. It would enrich the context.

[Noir]

he doesn't want a dewoitine !!! KILL HIMMMM 

[Baumer]

AWwrgwy thank you for only quoting part of what I said, and not including the rest of the context. I believe that these two aircraft meet 2 of the 3 criteria that HTC has established for inclusion in the game. I also said they failed to meet the third.

While I completely agree that neither saw any combat, they were deployed in squadron strength, and ready for combat before the end of World War II.

Speaking with, and listening to HiTech and Pyro at the con, there were several discussions about expanding the plane set. Both towards WWI and Korea, so while they have clear guidelines for what aircraft have been including in the game. It appeared that, maybe, they were considering expanding their scope, and possibly be willing to consider aircraft that they wouldn't have in the past.

[Kazaa]

Woops.

[AWwrgwy]

AWwrgwy thank you for only quoting part of what I said, and not including the rest of the context. I believe that these two aircraft meet 2 of the 3 criteria that HTC has established for inclusion in the game. I also said they failed to meet the third.

Speaking with, and listening to HiTech and Pyro at the con, there were several discussions about expanding the plane set. Both towards WWI and Korea, so while they have clear guidelines for what aircraft have been including in the game. It appeared that, maybe, they were considering expanding their scope, and possibly be willing to consider aircraft that they wouldn't have in the past.

I imagine Combat is kind of an important criteria for a Combat Sim.  Did the F8F even see combat in Korea?  As I understand it the remaining active F8F squadrons at the time were based in the Atlantic and did not.



wrongway

[TOMCAT21]

I believe the only combat the F8F was with French Air Force in IndoChina and I know the Thai Air Force had them...and I think we gave some to the Vietnamese air foce too.