Spit16 takes tater in wing near root, shrugs it off

[BaldEagl]

Cool.  I'm going to start flying the Spud retardant Spit XVI... oh... wait.

<--- off to dance with a dinasaur.

[simshell]

I think I still have my film

I hit a spitfire with the 40mm on the hurr-d

I only fired the 40mm at around 200 and hit him dead center

and he flew away fine

I got a assist  later on when someone else killed him lol

[moot]

You weren't firing the 303s at all?

[Bronk]

40 mm is ap , punches big holes but no boom. Thats why I am always surprised when I pluck wins off with em.

[Becinhu]

Cool.  I'm going to start flying the Spud retardant Spit XVI... oh... wait.

<--- off to dance with a dinasaur.

If it's a purple dinosaur you are scaring me MORE than normal BE.....

[FastTaco]

I've also hit a spit in the cockpit with a tater, high deflection up real close as we were scissoring. I saw the hit sprite, he received no damage when I asked him.

Funny how the same 30mm once blew my own 262 up, I was going vert and put 30mm's into the fuselage of a bomber from nose to tail. Passed very near his tail and I just blew up outta the sky. There was no "You have collided" message and he did not fire on me nor did I receive a "Killed by player" message. This same 262 death was never recorded on the score page, though I lost the perks still!  Unless an exploding plane can cause damage? If not it was my own 30mm's blowing me up.

[moot]

No damage could be packet loss.  The question is if taters can truly hit and not take a wing off.  And if possible, figure out if it's normal for planes to take a tater in the nose and have the engine seize only after a few seconds; which would mean there's something newer than the "normal" instant engine death or 1+ minute death by oil leak.

[Stang]

It would be one thing if they caused some damage, but in every case I've asked the guy I was fighting if he took any damage or even heard the hit.  Every time he's said no hit or damage.  Something's buggy.

[Anaxogoras]

It would be one thing if they caused some damage, but in every case I've asked the guy I was fighting if he took any damage or even heard the hit.  Every time he's said no hit or damage.  Something's buggy.

Then why do I get an assist when he dies?

[moot]

Where did the 30mm hit in this case?  There has to be one way or other to remove any doubt that the 30mm caused registered damage but didn't do (what we're considering) normal damage, i.e. a wing off, or an engine kill, or a pk depending on where it landed.  The only fuzzy aspect I expect is some planes only getting oil leaks from a tater in the engine (tough ones like the 47 or hogs), or non-fatal rudder/vstab damage on hits to one side of the tail (in the 38 or 110).

Unless someone can say they've always had planes take these hits and shrug it off more than once every 50 times, since 2000 or so.  I know that in my experience this apparent fluke has only been going on for the last 3-4 years or so. A tater to the engine before then would always kill it instantly, and a hit anywhere in the wing would at best break the wingtip, and at worst take the whole wing off.  I have never seen first hand an oil leak that takes only a few seconds to run out.

[SouthLanda]

Hi guys, in 12 hours I'll post my evidence that there is a bug in AH related to 30mm. Where the bug sits, the FE, network, damage model, it cant be said by me. Could be anything.

What if I fired 30mm from a Me-262 and lit up a lancaster like a Christmas tree and he kept flying?

Evidence will be posted!

[moot]

The potential problem with such evidence is that a target like the B24 can soak up a number of 30mm before showing damage.  Whereas fighters have a lower damage threshold, so you can clearly tell if something's amiss and/or rule it out, like network issues (e.g. packet loss).  With a Lancaster taking more hits than it should, half the bullets may be lost in packets, and the other half totaling less than the damage threshold.

The best evidence of all that something's really wrong is a single 30mm hit where the target flies off with no visible damage, and later gives an assist. As far as I understand.

[Murdr]

I have one of those.  A 37mm right into the spinner of a spit16, no leaks, nothing.

[moot]

Did it give you an assist later, or something to show it wasn't just a lost packet?

[iTunes]

Happened to me twice in the last 2 weeks, once on a Hellcat and once on a Spit 9, I'll go and dig up the films, Both times It was a 6 shot from less than 200 in the vertical.