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Offline SIK1

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Re: Miracle Grow or Whatever?
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2009, 12:43:16 PM »
Redwoods grow pretty quick, but I don't think your going to get even a redwood to be 80' feet in two years unless the tree is already 70'.

Just an FYI redwoods top out around 100' so an eighty foot tree is a really tall tree.

Also according to the info I found on the Colorado (blue) spruce they top out around 65' so I don't think you are ever going to get this one to be an eighty foot tree.
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Re: Miracle Grow or Whatever?
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2009, 12:53:51 PM »
make a itty bitty evergreen in my back lot grow to 80 foot tall in two years or less.

Any suggestions?

Photoshop would be your best bet.  :D

Seriously, over 3 feet a month for two years? Ain't gonna happen.


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Re: Miracle Grow or Whatever?
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2009, 01:14:24 PM »
See if you can get a hold of Jack. He got that beanstalk to grow higher than anyone did, I am sure he can help you out.
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Re: Miracle Grow or Whatever?
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2009, 03:17:59 PM »
It is a colorado spruce.  The tree is right next to a pile of B-24 parts, but they are clean and do not block the sun, which it gets a lot of.   It does not get much water till summer.

Ah, Picea pungens.  Lets ignore the 80ft mark in two-year requirement, because if you do actualy pull it off, tell me before the feds ship you away for being a mad scientist.  I hope you know if it's a Colorado Blue Spruce or not, though the regular ones as seedlings do have blue and grey color (Picea pungens glauca, most grow squat/dwarf and fat compared to the non-blue spruces, I think there's even a variety that's more of a ground cover than a tree/shrub, since you're aiming for 80ft they won't do). 

It's good if it's in the sun, though they like mild/cool summers.  They like dry soil, full sun or lightly shaded areas, receiving little to moderate amounts of water throughout the year.  Make sure your B24 parts aren't diverting or pooling rainfall immediately under the tree.  They do not like really hot and humid summers.  Their worst enemy is aphids, typically kept in check by cold enough winters that will kill them off and mild summer climates.

In gardens they claim the Colorado Spruce will average 30-60ft, but this sounds like it might be closer to the wild and it's natural habitat so 80ft should be a good goal, maybe even 100ft if its' really really happy.  Spruces have no real soil nutrient requirements, they might actually react negatively if you kept applying fertilizers until you got a visible reaction... though that reaction unfortunately at that point would most likely be negative (over-fertilizing).  I wouldn't give it commercial fertilizer, or any fertilizer in a large dose, I'd go the slow and steady route.  If it's roots are already established good and it's growing straight, I'd just spread some horse manure around under it's canopy once every year or two if you have a neighbor with horses that wouldn't mind you coming by with a shovel, otherwise you could dig it up and then plant it surrounded by a light manure and soil mix (you don't want so much manure that it would retain a lot of soil moisture and make the tree unhappy).

Spruces are a good set-it and forget-it tree, if placed in a happy spot and climate there really isn't much else you need to do for them.  Just help the seedling get established as a healthy sized tree, give it water during a dry spell, and make sure during bad weather it's not getting over-watered (if it's in the bottom of a ditch, I'd move it).


One of my neighbours has a nice landscaping /driveway screen with bamboo, and i live in Windsor, Ontario . I can't believe this tropical plant can survive over winter in 10-20 degrees F. It's losing leafs in winter time, but becomes  green again in march -april. Bamboo is the fastest growing plant on earth; tree hugers are considering  "green" all kind of stuff made from bamboo, it reaches maturity and can be harvested after 4-5 years of growth, kind of renewable. Some species  of bamboo grows over 3 feet/day can reach 90 feet/year, but not here in Canada.

Oh that's nothing, one of my favorite bamboos is an ebony colored stalk bamboo that does quite well in all sorts of climates, it's agressive as all hell though like most bamboo.  It's called black bamboo (phyllostachys nigra) and will tolerate climates as low as 0 degrees F (actually there are quite a lot of species of bamboo that can tolerate the 0-5 degree F range).  My guess would be your neighbor has Narihira Bamboo (semiarundinaria fastuosa), I know it's one of the hardiest bamboos tolerating -4 degree F climates and makes nice manageable hedges/screens.

Some black bamboo photos I have bookmarked for work (stalks less than 2-years old are green):
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Re: Miracle Grow or Whatever?
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2009, 03:18:27 PM »
Photoshop would be your best bet.  :D


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Re: Miracle Grow or Whatever?
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2009, 06:48:52 PM »
No evergreen tree would actually grow like that in 2 years. but I think that the word refers to something else.


I do not agree.  I have it on expert advice that it can be done. 

Ohh, and it is not code for anything else, just a simple evergreen tree on my lot.
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