How is a new plane modeled?

[SmokinLoon]

looks above....

there are always "those" people that know so much better.

Great contribution, ... and your thoughts on how things are modelled?

[moot]

" Also, when they pick a model for whatever reason they dont seem to pay attention to which one was more popular, more used, etc."
Keep going, this is great. Great avatar too, probably as good as any mugshot.

[Bodhi]

Great contribution, ... and your thoughts on how things are modelled?

I dunno... I spend most of the working day building the real thing.  I certainly don't poke at those that spend their time trying to emulate it for the masses that will never be able to experience it.

How about you there mr. wizard?

[Bronk]

Bodhi, He might know about that 80' pine in 2 years.

[SmokinLoon]

I dunno... I spend most of the working day building the real thing.  I certainly don't poke at those that spend their time trying to emulate it for the masses that will never be able to experience it.

How about you there mr. wizard?

So you tinker with the "real thing" for your working hours, that makes you an expert in modeling the real thing for sim use?  I'm not newb to flying and I certainly dont consider myself any sort of expert in coding, but if you read my post close enough my biggest issue is their lack of addressing the proven inaccuracies with multiple AH2 aircraft such as their Mossie Mk6 and Spit16.  I certainly wouldnt want their job and I do appreciate their efforts (something I have also mentioned more than once).  With all that being said... you still want to carry on this slap session?  Bronk, you?

[Puck]

I dunno... I spend most of the working day building the real thing.  I certainly don't poke at those that spend their time trying to emulate it for the masses that will never be able to experience it.

How about you there mr. wizard?

When Bohdi isn't building the real thing he's our public relations manager.  He's so soft and cuddly you know...

All I heard from the people who know (Dale, actually, a few cons ago) is it's a mixture of lookup tables and calculations.  No, it's not X-Plane; Austin would very likely curl up and die in a furball trying to do all that math.  AH is also geared to lower end systems.  As for what they calculate and what they look up?  I have no idea...I didn't ask. 

The question is reasonable, but IP being what it is you're unlikely to know the answer (unless you get hired by HTC, then you won't be able to tell anyone anyway).

[Bronk]

  With all that being said... you still want to carry on this slap session?  Bronk, you?

Back up this staement then we'll talk.

While we're on the subject of the Spit16... talk about something FAR over-modelled... THAT plane is it.     

Appears to be fairly close to  stuff here ---->http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfire-IX.html

But what do they know compared to your 1337 knowledge.

[SmokinLoon]

Back up this staement then we'll talk.
Appears to be fairly close to  stuff here ---->http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spitfire-IX.html

But what do they know compared to your 1337 knowledge.

Do a search for the Mossie.  Multiple people have posted in multiple thread with evidence suggesting the inaccuracies of the AH2 Mossie  model, in specifc the exhaust/flame dampeners for night flying.

As for the Spit16, the issues with its ability to dive as well as it does, roll rate, and acceleration have all been addressed as well.  I'll pull out my hard Spitfire sources in the morning... but a quick search will prove fruitful.   

btw... I didnt claim to be "l337" as you say... just observant and annoyed at the lack of the things I already mentoined.     

[moot]

This is just a hunch, but I think there was a post by someone which gave a good reason for the exhaust shrouds to be left on our mossie.  Might have been Karnak, you'll have to dig it up yourself. If you weren't such a he'd probably be glad to spill all the beans at your request.

[SmokinLoon]

This is just a hunch, but I think there was a post by someone which gave a good reason for the exhaust shrouds to be left on our mossie.  Might have been Karnak, you'll have to dig it up yourself. If you weren't such a (Image removed from quote.) he'd probably be glad to spill all the beans at your request.

Karnak was one of those that provided evidence against the baffles.      Less than %20 of the FB MkIV were used with the baffles. 

[moot]

That post exists, I just don't remember any more about it.  It was at least 3 years ago.

[SmokinLoon]

That post exists, I just don't remember any more about it.  It was at least 3 years ago.

Do a search for "exhaust shroud"... find the post titled "Unleash the Mossie".  Read that first, then read the other obvious threads.  LOTS of viable and printed info available for HTC to conclude that the baffles/shrouds should be removed so the Mossie Mk6 can gain its 5-15mph it shoudl already have.

[Bodhi]

Karnak was one of those that provided evidence against the baffles.      Less than %20 of the FB MkIV were used with the baffles. 

Why do you care if it has baffles or not?  I can show you 100's of different items that the book says don't go on an aircraft but were in fact actually found on the aircraft in numerous cases.

The problem with people like you, is that you are nit pickers that direct your energies towards the mundane and foolish.  Worrying whether an aircraft has a flame arrestor equipped or not is an example of nit picking something mundane.  It's about the same as the imbeciles that argue over the correct shades of luftwaffe paint.

You want to figure something out?  Dig up info for new aircraft to be flight modeled as accurately as possible.

[moot]

Loon, I read those threads already. Prolly wore the avatar for a while. Flew the mossie a bunch when they fixed the stall, which was another change we asked for and got.  Of course you wouldn't mention that since you're too busy finding excuses to
And there was definitely a mitigating fact somewhere near the end of all the mossie discussions, which made it kinda moot whether it got shrouds or not. That fact itself might have been arguable, but it was definitely a fact. I just don't remember what it was.

[SmokinLoon]

Keep swinging because you're both missing.

The baffles/shrouds reduce the Mossie's speed by 5 to 15 mph depending on alt.  At 8k and 15k alt, another 15mph would give it the long range extending ability to outrun enough fighters that can surrently catch it, WEP or no WEP, in level flight.

btw... I'm hardly a nit-picker when it comes to this sim/game as I fully understand the monumentous tasks of getting things %100 right when the real deal is not available to compare to.  However, I will speak up on items that have been proven to be inaccurate and HTC doesnt comment on.  It is you two that came looking for a fight, not I. 

Keep swinging.  Maybe someday you'll get close.