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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2009, 03:09:43 AM »
How much has changed?  Every now and then a guy like you comes around and those of us that pay attention for years now, know better than his baseless rants.  I've posted a ton of stuff just in the wishlist.. And a lot of it got in. I'll take my chances, thanks.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2009, 09:03:15 AM »
He really is a negative nancy in all the posts I see
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2009, 09:32:08 AM »
"over the years"... if over the years you've seen som many changes then what are they still doing so efluffied up?  If a building is falling apart, painting it isnt repairing it (HTC isnt falling apart, its just an analogy).

"negative"?  Nah, just annoyed.  We point out those the same issues how often??? Our attempts to improve or balance (in a legit manner) go un-noticed and I can count on just a few fingers as to the number of replies HTC/admin has made to legit questions on coding, scoring, etc.

I very much enjoy the game but I shake my head daily in wonder at a lot of "what-n-why" in this game. 
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2009, 10:04:00 AM »
Take a trip to Grapevine.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2009, 10:57:54 AM »
To my mind, the P-47N is the supreme boom n' zoom aircraft of the American planeset, better than the P-51D.

Better for FIVE FREAKIN' MINUTES! Geez...you yourself posted something about the P51D being easier to fly in the MA melees  because it climbs and retains energy better, especially sans the "five minutes of joy".
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2009, 05:41:16 PM »
The D-40 ENY might be too high... but there's three important things the N has over the D-40: speed, roll-rate, and range.  To my mind, the P-47N is the supreme boom n' zoom aircraft of the American planeset, better than the P-51D.
Yes...that MUST be why it has such an impressive k/d ratio, and gets SUCH extensive usage
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2009, 05:46:23 PM »
I think the P-47N suffers a bit more than the P-51D in terms of overall K/D because I feel it's more often used as a bombsled instead of a fighter. Of course I can't prove it ;)
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2009, 05:50:06 PM »
D40 heap much better bombsled, climbs 1/3 faster
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2009, 05:56:37 PM »
D40 heap much better bombsled, climbs 1/3 faster

That's nothing I dispute.

I was just pointing out the possible difference in usage between P-51D & P-47N and the resulting impact on K/D.

Also, I see much more P47D-40 actually used as a fighter than P-47Ns
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2009, 06:31:40 PM »
Yes...that MUST be why it has such an impressive k/d ratio, and gets SUCH extensive usage (Image removed from quote.)

Yup, and that's also why the P-38J should be perked. :noid
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2009, 06:42:01 PM »
D40 heap much better bombsled, climbs 1/3 faster

When the fuel load is adjusted to give similar climb times, the D40 does NOT climb that much faster than the N on MIL, and none at all on WEP. The N flies the same amount of time at 50% as the D-40 does at 75%.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2009, 07:38:03 PM »
N is about the only plane I fly for fighter---that 5 min can't be wasted being impatient waiting for it to climb. D40 at 100, full ord load climbs at 1200-ish...N 75% full ord load climbs at 900 ish. As a fighter jock, I'm prolly a 6 on scale of 10, would love to see what a REALLY talented guy does with N. but none of those guys fly it, which is telling.

BUT, back to original thread, 152 USED to be perked...now it merely suffers brutal ENY. (Having said that, only a few guys like M00t rule with it....I'm not sure what to think about it....thankfully it doesn't carry eggs, else the noe tards would use it over 110's)
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2009, 07:58:43 PM »
I won't deny that it's a real late war stud.. But it's not worth 5 ENY.  I think 8 ENY would be very good. 10 would be great but may not be fair for the reasons Del pointed out. I personaly can't really decide whether its handicapping heft is really outweighed by its (very, 10k higher than e.g. the N's) high altitude performance.  It doesn't accelerate any better up there.. Something like over 20minutes just for the last 50mph or so. I only remember that I literally ran out of patience.

I've flown the N (used to fly the D11 a lot), and it's a real hotrod..  Even if just for 5min. Those guns, strapped to that engine, with less than a mountain of ammo in the wings.. and such usable flaps to help it.. Thunderbolt is a good name for it.
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2009, 05:53:17 PM »
How much has changed?  Every now and then a guy like you comes around and those of us that pay attention for years now, know better than his baseless rants.  I've posted a ton of stuff just in the wishlist.. And a lot of it got in. I'll take my chances, thanks.

Oh?  Start naming the things YOU have requested and when those specific things were implimented.  "Baseless rants"?  Oh such snobbery you display for having nothing but a post count to stand on :rolleyes:  .  Seems like I back all of my "rants" up with reasoning (agree or dissagree, I back them up).  If I dont agree with something I state why not, I dont just shoot my mouth off.

You're as clueless cool-aid drinker (do you even know where that term comes from???).  I've always acknowledged the changes over the *years*, that isnt my "rant" as you say.  My *rant* is the lack of communication from HTC (a simple 2 sentence reply in forums like these would shut a lot of people up), the lack of justification when no one can seem to find any (P47N is prime example), and the lack of action when viable, legit, and historical information is brought forward.

Alright, fess up.  Since you've the guru at requesting things and getting them implemented into the game... what and when??? 
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Re: Please reconsider the Ta152 ENY
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2009, 06:19:48 PM »
I'll answer your post in a separate thread, if you can cobble enough brain cells together to start one. Stick to the topic, here.
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