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Offline BigPlay

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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #90 on: June 03, 2009, 04:24:15 PM »
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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #91 on: June 03, 2009, 04:39:50 PM »

we dont need any russian bombers maybe the he-111 for ew would be another choice. Wheres the B-17c for ew?

America wasn't involved in the early war. US participation started mid war.

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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #92 on: June 03, 2009, 05:50:46 PM »
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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #93 on: June 03, 2009, 05:51:59 PM »
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That is SUCH a cool picture.
Go A-26!!!!

We didn't get it because we needed a plane so ugly, that it was sexy, just like the Brewster Buffalo.
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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #94 on: June 04, 2009, 04:16:38 AM »
I suspect that half the people that voted did not know what most of the aircraft were on the list.  I don't mean that as an insult, but the average guy probably knows the main aircraft of the war but the Russian/Japanese and German types are probably a bit unknown.  I suspect that it is a low % of the subscriber base which checks the forums too.  The in game poll didn't have any information on the types if i recall, otherwise i think that the A-26 or Me-410 would have been voted in.
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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #95 on: June 04, 2009, 04:48:37 AM »
Quote from wiki.

"After about 1,570 production aircraft, three guns were installed in each wing, coinciding with the introduction of the "eight-gun nose" for A-26Bs, giving some configurations as many as 14 .50 in (12.7 mm) machine guns in a fixed forward mount. An A-26C nose section could be exchanged for an A-26B nose section, or vice versa, in a few man-hours, thus physically (and officially) changing the designation and operational role. The "flat-topped" canopy was changed in late 1944 after about 820 production aircraft, to a clamshell style with greatly improved visibility."

That's what I call "over the top" fire power.

Does anyone know how well the A-26 could turn? It has a wing loading of 51 lb/ft² (250 kg/m²) but I have nothing to compare it too.

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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2009, 05:13:03 AM »
Kazaa you would need to know what cfg that 51lb/ft2 figure is for.
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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #97 on: June 04, 2009, 06:23:33 AM »

 give it to me and i,ll show you how well it will turn  :D


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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #98 on: June 04, 2009, 07:04:41 AM »
I think four aircraft should be added over the next four months but that is me.
1) A-26 outstanding aircraft that stayed in service all the way to Vietnam
2) Ju-52- be kinda of nice considering it had a gun in the back
3) Mig-3 Russians should have an aircraft added
4) He-111

One added aircraft from each category, one attack, one fighter, one bomber, and a new transport aircraft. Now will this happen, I seriously doubt it but all 4 would be a nice addition. Now I think the A-26 should be perked for good reasons but would give us something to use bomber perk points on. I got way too many and would be nice to have something to spend it on.

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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #99 on: June 04, 2009, 07:08:31 AM »
lol, you can't perk the A-26, that's just crazy talk.



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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #100 on: June 04, 2009, 09:59:14 AM »
America wasn't involved in the early war. US participation started mid war.




1941 wasn't early war? Do you consider the battle of Britain early war?

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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #101 on: June 04, 2009, 11:36:05 AM »
How would that have been bad?  Fluffers would stop whining about perk bombers.

In just about every way imaginable.

Toolshedders ruin too many good fights as it is.

I would of loved the A-26 though.  :cool:
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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #102 on: June 04, 2009, 12:42:15 PM »



1941 wasn't early war? Do you consider the battle of Britain early war?

Pretty much 1942 when you consider Pearl Harbour was in December, the 8th Air Force did not start proper operations until mid/late 1942.  The Battle of Britain was approximately 2 years before the start of the 8th AF bomber offensive.  Coral Sea was also mid 42.
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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #103 on: June 04, 2009, 01:24:10 PM »
Great plane, but not what's needed for complete scenario planesets.  At least, it's not at the top of that list.  My guess is that G.55 votes helped the B-25 and P-39.  You guys should have organized around one or two choices to outvote the American-everything crowd.

At least then the final vote would not have been between two American planes.

The incentive for the B-25H was to honor the father of one of the players that flew the B-25 (think it was the C) during the war.  I believe the default skin is the one that the player's father flew.  It had nothing to do with being an American plane.


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Re: Proof aircraft polls are bad
« Reply #104 on: June 04, 2009, 01:41:40 PM »
Pretty much 1942 when you consider Pearl Harbour was in December, the 8th Air Force did not start proper operations until mid/late 1942.  The Battle of Britain was approximately 2 years before the start of the 8th AF bomber offensive.  Coral Sea was also mid 42.



Then explain why the P-40E, P-38g, Boston, Landcaster, Spitfire IX, P-39, FW 199 A/5 are in the EW plane set. These planes were not around in 1940 and  some not until late 1941.

The B-17C was at Henderson field in 1941 and most likely earlier due to the fact that the Japanerse attacked the Philipanines virtually at the same time they attacked pearl Harbor and B-17C's were at Henderson field when they attacked. B-17C's were delivered to units in November of 1940. B-17's were also flying inbound to pearl harbor while under attack and were also destroyed on the ground as well. So what do you consider to be the EW time frame?