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Offline Chalenge

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2009, 07:43:14 PM »
There is no such thing as a 'pick'... period. If you make the choice to engage one on one you cannot 'assume' its safe to ignore everything outside of your little private fight because it never is. 'Dumb' would be assuming it is.
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2009, 08:14:04 PM »
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2009, 08:32:30 PM »
There is no such thing as a 'pick'... period. If you make the choice to engage one on one you cannot 'assume' its safe to ignore everything outside of your little private fight because it never is. 'Dumb' would be assuming it is.

It does not matter what either of the pilots think, the definition is killing someone already in a fight. 
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2009, 08:37:27 PM »
I can say exactly the same thing in defense of killing anyone Mensa. He just thought he was busy with one guy when he was really busy with me OR how about a squaddie asking you to help? Not allowed? Sorry but I dont think so.

I can understand 'allowing' someone to fly home after a good fight but expecting to find a one on one fight in the arena where no one ever gets picked... go to the DA.
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2009, 10:00:43 PM »
4. telling them that spitfire is a dweebs plane is ridiculous. There are no dweeb planes every plane has its good points and its disadvantages.

...well...er...the Spitfire is a very fine plane to learn on....

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2009, 10:15:00 PM »
the whole "pick" thing.. is kinda retarded.

if I come across a friendly who is in deep crap asking for help.. what? im supposed to just orbit.. and wait??

thats absurd.. 

what does it make you if you ignore a friendly begging for help?? 

I would rather be a "picker" than someone who leaves someone high and dry.

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2009, 10:43:43 PM »
If you ever see me in a 1v1 please wait till its over.  I prefer to die trying.  I tend to learn something from every fight.
If I'm not busy at the time,  I will help anyone if I can.  Heck, I'm still learning the game myself.
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2009, 10:47:03 PM »
If you ever see me in a 1v1 please wait till its over.  I prefer to die trying.  I tend to learn something from every fight.

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2009, 10:53:13 PM »
Umm, seems to have no logic to it. How can you really learn anything if you never learn to know when to disengage? Like, if I'm in a fight on the deck with one guy, low E and all, and spot a 2nd and maybe a 3rd guy come in, I'll try to extend, climb, to try and regain the advantage if possible. If that's not possible I'M GETTING THE HECK OUTTA THERE!!!

What you are doing with that attitude is, a) never allowing yourself to learn how to watch your back and b) fight until there are no enemies or ammo left, or until you DIE.

I see no logic in it, other than it could be done by a AI just as well.

It's like... other enemies showing up IS part of the game AND part of the fight. If people don't want to adapt to the fact we have a DA and the MAs aren't it, it's not my problem really.

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2009, 10:54:52 PM »
1. why do a few of you think its funny to say alt f4 to any question by a new player. This game needs new players to grow and help htc build a better platform.

If I answer something like alt f4 to someone, it's because their question went along the lines of:

"How do I fly?"

"Where are the F-15s?"

"How to I fly a B-29"

If its anything more advanced than "How do I use the bombsight" I am more than happy to help. But if someone is going to come into the main arena without spending so much as 5 minutes in the Training Arena first, then no, I DONT want him there. I want people in the game who at least take the time to look for an answer themselves in the proper area rather than jumping into the thick of it and expecting us to hold their hands.

And yes, the FIRST place I went when I started this game, was the training arena. Its there for a reason.

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2009, 11:03:26 PM »
If you ever see me in a 1v1 please wait till its over.  I prefer to die trying.  I tend to learn something from every fight.
If I'm not busy at the time,  I will help anyone if I can.  Heck, I'm still learning the game myself...

Just so you know grind I always ask and usually cover the fight unless I am asked in but my answer to the same question is: If you can kill him go for it.

I dont generally have to share too many kills but I will share!  :aok
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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2009, 11:13:41 PM »
I dont generally have to share too many kills but I will share!  :aok

Now that's the kind of attitude I like!

Aggressive!  :devil


NOT like... Nooo stay out of the fight, he's mine let me park on his six for a few minutes so I can shoot him down.  :cry


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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2009, 11:31:59 PM »
1. No it doesn't take two to HO. A ho by both is nose to nose both not trying to maneuver in any way.
2. Pick is not guy with more alt. Pick is killing another while he is engaged with a friendly.
3. NOE is 499ft or less and always has been.
4. just because guy is low rank under say 20 means hes a score ho is dumb. ( if his bomber hit% over 600 and attack bomb hit over 400% he is trying for score other tan that hes just playing game well rounded out)
5. just because a guy breaks off doesn't always mean he scared or chicken. Means he has good SA and See's he is outnumbered or out of fuel soon or low ammo or sees your help coming in to pick him)
6. Head-on attacks were taught by US, GB, and Luftwaffe's on enemy planes and Japanese on bombers only/.go back Thu BBS u can find pages from my fathers fight manual teaching Head-on attacks, and read about thatch weave you Will see it was used. Also chuck Yeager's was shot down trying to ho a 190. so u can imagine if he was using I'm sure allot tried it in real life too.


now for treating of new people.

1. why do a few of you think its funny to say alt f4 to any question by a new player. This game needs new players to grow and help htc build a better platform.

2. if you don't want to him them stay quiet play your game, but to butt in while others try to help is just plain ignorance.

3. telling them to leave to go training or calling them squeakers. instead of just letting others help them shows at least me i want them in the game more than i would like u in the game :)

4. telling them that spitfire is a dweebs plane is ridiculous. There are no dweeb planes every plane has its good points and its disadvantages.



  Best thing if new or fairly new is just play game and have fun your way. ignore the guys that will try to belittle others in a game. But please always ask before sending a request to fly in someones plane. its the polite thing to do.







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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2009, 11:41:55 PM »
rod367 I agree with all. And though they might not have taught the HO- pacific lived and died by that and high 6 attacks

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Re: too many repeat urbanlegand crap and belittle new players.
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2009, 11:50:25 PM »
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What about when a guy breaks from a 1v1?  That's when I call them chicken glaze.

Why? Once again it's poor SA if the individual stays in a fight with Low E and ALT. When possible you should break, Assess the situation, regain your E and possibly any alt that you can grab in the process and then enter the fight again.

I didn't know that smart flying meant being chicken... man those WWII guys really got it wrong!
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