gun damage ratio

[VonMessa]

I concur.

[ScatterFire]

If you read combat logs, you'll notice that most pilots will go through hundreds of rounds on a single contact.  The guns are just fine.

I have like a 1.78% hit ratio; takes a lot of ammo to kill a lanc like that 

[Steve]

i dont fly the stupid 190 i like the p47 but all day today i shat probably all my rounds int one set of lancs not even any smoke goes out

you missed. I can post plenty of films of me blasting lancs in a feeble p51D which has a fraction of the ammo and not as much firepower as the 47.

[VonMessa]

Agreed, Steve.

WHERE you hit them also make a world of difference.  Just randomly hitting something that large with scattered groupings won't cut the mustard.

In, addition, each type of buff has it's weak spot.  I personally go for a 3/9 shot on Lancs and 17's, trying to slice off the tail.

With 24's its top down and going at the wing root.

These are obviously if I can't get a good cockpit shot.   

[Saxman]

Aiming center of mass is fine against fighters, you're bound to hit SOMETHING important (I don't aim for individual components against fighters, I'm not a good enough shot for that). Bombers are entirely different. WHERE you shoot is more important than how much you hit and with what.

As Messa said it depends on the target, although hitting the cocking in a head-on shot works for all of them. I also find a vertical drop on the wingroots is effective against all BUFFs, though as indicated the B-24 is most susceptible to this.

But you have to concentrate your fire. Waving your guns and scattering hits all over isn't going to do you any good. Keep your attack run steady and focused on one point. Just break off before you run in to him.

And DON'T sit on his tail. It takes a lot more fire to cause enough damage to bring him down that way than it would if you make a high-angle pass that gives you a clean shot at one point.

[BnZs]

Well, you know Saxman, I think the "aluminum tube" portion of our bombers is a little tough. Realistically speaking you'd have fluid lines of various sorts, bombs to hit, as well as crew members. I think taking out the gun positions from a rain of bullets that would surely puncture at least some of the crew is a little harder than it should be. Whereas ingame you get little to no effect.

Spot on about the B-24 fire "button", although they often fly burning long enough to accomplish their mission. The really supremely annoying bombers are the B-17s and the fast ones like B-26s running on the deck where you can not make a diving attack in the pure vertical without augering.

Aiming center of mass is fine against fighters, you're bound to hit SOMETHING important (I don't aim for individual components against fighters, I'm not a good enough shot for that). Bombers are entirely different. WHERE you shoot is more important than how much you hit and with what.

As Messa said it depends on the target, although hitting the cocking in a head-on shot works for all of them. I also find a vertical drop on the wingroots is effective against all BUFFs, though as indicated the B-24 is most susceptible to this.

But you have to concentrate your fire. Waving your guns and scattering hits all over isn't going to do you any good. Keep your attack run steady and focused on one point. Just break off before you run in to him.

And DON'T sit on his tail. It takes a lot more fire to cause enough damage to bring him down that way than it would if you make a high-angle pass that gives you a clean shot at one point.

[Enker]

Aiming center of mass is fine against fighters, you're bound to hit SOMETHING important (I don't aim for individual components against fighters, I'm not a good enough shot for that).

Saxman, that is a load of bull, you are one of the best shots in the game.

[Saxman]

It's a lot easier to hit when you don't shoot outside 200yds.

[splitatom]

i think weapons hitting power has gone down some because my snap shots in my f4u1a don't take out 109's like they used to it seems it was changed with the il2 update

[moot]

i dont fly the stupid 190 i like the p47 but all day today i shat probably all my rounds int one set of lancs not even any smoke goes out

Show   some   film

[dirt911]

i have fighter kills but it requires too many bullets just now i sho a p51 in the engine and cockpit so he has no engine its not runing and he keeps climbind for 5mins after his engine went out
that should be fixed then today i shot another p51 with i dont even know how many rounds
and guess what
                                           NOTHING

[Motherland]

i have fighter kills but it requires too many bullets just now i sho a p51 in the engine and cockpit so he has no engine its not runing and he keeps climbind for 5mins after his engine went out
that should be fixed then today i shot another p51 with i dont even know how many rounds
and guess what
                                           NOTHING

Show   some   film

[Saxman]

dirt,

Let me introduce you to some friends of mine. Their names are:

, - Comma
. - Period
! - Exclamation Point
? - Question Mark

[The Fugitive]

i have fighter kills but it requires too many bullets just now i sho a p51 in the engine and cockpit so he has no engine its not runing and he keeps climbind for 5mins after his engine went out
that should be fixed then today i shot another p51 with i dont even know how many rounds
and guess what
                                           NOTHING

Whats your ingame name?

[Spikes]

i dont fly the stupid 190 i like the p47 but all day today i shat probably all my rounds int one set of lancs not even any smoke goes out

1.) a good 190 stick could own your P47 any day.
2.) you missed
3.) I can take down a set of Lancs with a Ki-61, only using cannon rounds. 3500+ rounds vs 250? Somethings wrong here.