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Offline Slade

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New Planes vs. Time
« on: February 04, 2009, 02:46:19 PM »
Hello,

How many months has it been since we have had a completely new plane added to AH?

Thanks,

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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2009, 03:13:29 PM »
I think the P39s were added in Feb.
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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 03:51:31 PM »
It has been a while

But we've had a lot of people giving them shizz about it, so I don't think it's my place to criticize.
Who knows, it might be a really good patch next time around.

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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 03:54:42 PM »
Hello,

How many months has it been since we have had a completely new plane added to AH?

Thanks,

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About a  year- 2.12 was released in March '08, in which we got the P39 (along with a ton of other things, including graphic updates for planes, gv's, the carrier group, some new vehicles, and new offline features).

It's been about 6 months since the last update was in September. We didn't get any new planes but we got a new tank, a bunch of graphics updates and some under the hood changes.

The next update should be here in a couple months, I suspect, if HTC is on schedule, and they have already announced a huge project which will presumably be a part of it.
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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2009, 07:48:21 PM »
Guys,

Thanks for the feedback.  It is a great game.  AH have built a great core.  :aok

No disrespect, perhaps there is a relation between major software version update intervals and customer retention?

There are so many more planes and plane variants that can be added.  I like shiny water [new feature ref] as much as the next guy but my wish is for more planes.

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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2009, 07:50:37 PM »
Slade quick question.... You've mastered the whole plane set?
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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2009, 07:51:46 PM »
Do you in fact realize how much nitty-gritty work goes into modeling in a new aircraft/GV for the game? I don't, but I can guess it takes a long, long, time. Be patient.
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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2009, 07:56:05 PM »
There are so many more planes and plane variants that can be added.  I like shiny water [new feature ref] as much as the next guy but my wish is for more planes.
I understand this- there are lot's of planes that we don't have I'd love to fly.
However, there are a lot of others that others want and I don't. Plenty of people want, say, an A26, or a similar late war bomber, and many others (like me) would rather see an He111 or similar early war bomber. People like different planes for different reasons and thus HTC can't please everybody with one release of a new plane.

They can, however, please everybody at the same times by overhauling game systems that will benefit everybody no matter how or what they are flying. These are things that need to be updated and changed with time.

We are probably getting the Brewster B239 in this update, based on what has been posted by HTC staff, and since the update will likely be out sometime this month or next, just be patient :aok
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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2009, 08:18:06 PM »
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You've mastered the whole plane set?

Funny you should ask this!  Though I am not a master AH player as many of you, I have been playing for nearly 4 years.  For the fun of it this month I am upping each fighter plane in alpha order, getting a kill in it, then moving on to the next plane.  I would not recommend this to score fixated players.  :lol

I am ecstatic over what planes exist here now!  It is just my preference for updates to have more and varied planes.  For starters I'd love to fly one of these: IAR-80, Ki-100, Yak-3, Donier Arrow.  I mean can you imagine having these too!  :O

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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2009, 08:25:40 PM »
If you want the Ki100, just fly the Ki61 and pretend it's got a stubbier nose. The Ki100 was an aircraft of necessity (lack of engines for existing Ki61 airframes), and the only significant difference I've seen between the two is that the new radial engine was supposed to be more reliable to the license built DB601.

The Dornier 'Arrow' (Do 335)is an aircraft that will never be added (thankfully) because HTC's requirements for inclusion include that an aircraft must have been flown in unit strength and been engaged in combat.
The Dornier 'Flying Pencil' (Do 17) on the other hand, may (hopefully) may be added eventually :)

As far as those other planes go... yes, they would be great. As someone who flies for scenarios I would love a more varied, particularly EW planeset (I'm looking at you, IAR-80 :) ). But there is a large section of the player base who only wants the biggest, best, fastest etc. (and generally redundant American) planes. Among these players EW aircraft are considered hanger queens and a waste of HTC's time. Among historically-minded players, big, fast, low production late war uber-planes are silly and redundant.... and a waste of HTC's time. HTC inevitably has to cater to both of these groups, adding planes that will appeal to both, thus splitting their time. Because of this, using their time on improving game systems, such as the terrain model, damage model, flight model, graphic systems, etc., that will improve the game experience for everyone indiscriminately, is a great investment of their time.
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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2009, 08:33:01 PM »
While we may never see the "arrow" I can appreciate wanting new AC. With HTC shelving CT I'm hopeful they are full speed ahead on new additions.

Deciding  what to add, modeling, getting research, tweeking  flight model and debugging take time.
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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2009, 08:37:58 PM »
Motherland,

I'm with ya on your points.  Makes sense.  Luv that Ki-61 too.

Unless I am misinterpreting Wikipedia's Ki-100 page (very possible), yes it derived from the Ki-61 but not in the same linear fashion as their other planes.  It seemed to coalesce into quite an interesting bird.

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Among these players EW aircraft are considered hanger queens and a waste of HTC's time.

I rarely fly LA7s and Spit16s (I don't mind those that do) because my greatest joy is shooting down uber planes in "hanger queens".   :-)

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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2009, 08:47:55 PM »
I rarely fly LA7s and Spit16s (I don't mind those that do) because my greatest joy is shooting down uber planes in "hanger queens".   :-)
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Unless I am misinterpreting Wikipedia's Ki-100 page (very possible), yes it derived from the Ki-61 but not in the same linear fashion as their other planes.  It seemed to coalesce into quite an interesting bird.
The Ki-100 was basically a Ki61 with a radial Ha-112 engine as opposed to the Ha-40 to basically recycle left over airframes. It was kind of a reverse Fw190D (as opposed to the Fw190A) with a less pronounced performance difference.

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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 02:25:02 AM »
A great man once said "If you try to please everyone, you might as well kiss your bellybutton goodbye".
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Re: New Planes vs. Time
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 04:48:17 AM »
Remember also that any plane updated, will be just as good as any new plane made. :rock
Lets hope the HTC staff went on a face lift rampage.  :devil

So far the ground/water is showing these signs, question is will any of our older aircraft see enhancements?



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