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Offline gpwurzel

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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2009, 10:47:31 AM »
Approx 15k ???????


Sorry, I just had to  :D



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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2009, 10:58:48 AM »
Whats the difference between some punkstang diving in from 20k into a low furball and zooming back up to rinse and repeat and a Gv doing it from below?

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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2009, 11:00:36 AM »
Imagine that? Low and slow firing aircraft having to look out for flak?

Next thing you know they will try and turn this into a world war flight sim. based on actual history.

Perk the scoundrels I say! Here, Here!

Indeed, I agree!

While we're at it, Me-262s, Me-163s, C-Hogs, F4U-4s, TempestVs, SpitXIVs, Sherman Fireflies, Tigers...all equally parts of the "real" WWII experience. Where does HTC get off trying to limit them with perks!?!?!? :mad:
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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2009, 11:11:56 AM »
Whats the difference between some punkstang diving in from 20k into a low furball and zooming back up to rinse and repeat and a Gv doing it from below?

The inability to spawn within firing range?
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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2009, 11:52:34 AM »
Partial solution:

Perk the Wirblewind AND the Ostwind. Both were INCREDIBLY rare vehicles, however especially since the WW was introduced the FAR more numerous M16 (3500+ vs. 40-50 Ostwinds and about 100 or so Wirbles) has virtually disappeared from use.
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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2009, 12:04:48 PM »
Partial solution:

Perk the Wirblewind AND the Ostwind. Both were INCREDIBLY rare vehicles, however especially since the WW was introduced the FAR more numerous M16 (3500+ vs. 40-50 Ostwinds and about 100 or so Wirbles) has virtually disappeared from use.
And put the IL2 on that list also.  The version we have is as rare as the Wirble  ;)

But seriously guys, you DO realize that one of the main factors in this game is taking the base, right?  To take the base you have to suppress the air cover and ground fire.  Most of the wirbles don't care about "ruining" the fun in a furball, they are helping their country in the prime directive; VICTORY.

There is always the DA for non-meaningful "fight because you want to" furballs...
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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2009, 12:06:27 PM »
Oh my - this could get interesting.

Not a dig Scatterfire, but you may find opinions on that vary - big time.

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Carry on  :D

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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2009, 12:14:19 PM »
Oh my - this could get interesting.

Not a dig Scatterfire, but you may find opinions on that vary - big time.
Well, obviously I can only speak with any knowledge about myself and the ones I routinely attack a base with.  :aok  There is always constant voice chatter in my local area directing and organizing the assault and defenses, almost never any "vindictiveness".  Guess I lurk with different groups of players...

You mileage my differ, of course  :cool:
« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 12:15:59 PM by ScatterFire »
Scatter1:
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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2009, 12:20:11 PM »
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THose folks can do what they want, but it's still a lamer way to kill time, and somewhat of a griefer way to do it as well.  "Hey, there are a load of fellas that are fighting each other in planes....lets go take some WW's over there an  shoot at planes that are already fighting other enemies!"   It's their 15 bucks, but is also about as lame and dweeby as one can get....like taking GV's to vulch planes at airbase....perfectly legal, but tardish as all get out.


You could say the same thing about lamers in IL2 and Bombers when there is a GV battle going on and they show up to start bombing the GVs is a lamer way to kill them why don't you up a GV and fight not a IL2 or bomber and drop bombs.

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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2009, 12:37:25 PM »

You could say the same thing about lamers in IL2 and Bombers when there is a GV battle going on and they show up to start bombing the GVs is a lamer way to kill them why don't you up a GV and fight not a IL2 or bomber and drop bombs.

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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2009, 12:39:08 PM »
Nothing beats a field gun with tracers off when they think they've deacked a field its hilarious.  :rock

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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2009, 12:55:56 PM »

So, everyone that keeps thinking and/or saying this is just a flight sim needs some remedial reading classes.  You boys and girls can think what you want, if it's a flight sim to you, so be it, but it's not to a lot of the people here.  Is it primarily used as a flight sim, yes, but that's not what the HTC team has developed it as. 

Just what I read on the home page  http://www2.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html

Welcome to the Internets premier WWII combat experience!
  • engage in air sea or land combat
    create your own mission
    form a squadron
    partecipate in historical scenarios

then I ask myself why HTC has modeled hangars, cities, supplying systems, meteo, para troops......and so on

This is definitely a flight sim, to me (but I'll let you use it as you want without throwing any sentence ) :D

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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2009, 01:13:31 PM »
My question would be .. 'Why do you furball over a GV spawn?'  The map tells you where they are.. don't go there.

Makes about as much sense as furballing around an enemy fleet and complaining about puffy ack.

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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2009, 01:18:10 PM »
Partial solution:

Perk the Wirblewind AND the Ostwind. Both were INCREDIBLY rare vehicles, however especially since the WW was introduced the FAR more numerous M16 (3500+ vs. 40-50 Ostwinds and about 100 or so Wirbles) has virtually disappeared from use.


if you dont mind me asking
what did the germans use then

have never really study what they used for this
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Re: Wirbelwind under furballs
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2009, 01:32:59 PM »

if you dont mind me asking
what did the germans use then

have never really study what they used for this

Mostly this:


And this:


this too:



Much rarer were things like:


or this:


And as rare as an Ostwind, but earlier:


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