Dive bombing in Lancasters

[Bronk]

It's easy,  try and keep up If F3 mode was disabled, the ability for the "dogfighting" A20s and IL2s would be greatly curtailed, simply because the views would be realistic! 

I wouldn't know as I don't use the f3 in an IL-2. Also I think I can count on one hand times I've flown the A-20.

[moot]

It's easy,  try and keep up If F3 mode was disabled, the ability for the "dogfighting" A20s and IL2s would be greatly curtailed, simply because the views would be realistic! 

I doubt Humble or Widewing rely on F3 to make the A20 dance.

[WWhiskey]

shreck
10K--> ? <  that's a dive bombing run if I've ever seen one !     The tracers give away the LIE 




there are no tracers in the pictures !!!
 if you look close at the first pic you see there is no ack at all!!!
 all you do see is the explosions from the bombs hitting
first pic shows 3 splashes from first pickle of bombs, no flashes, no tracers only smoke from #3 engine from flack burst on approach
 the fire you see is the candle that was already lit when i got there!!


back away from the coolaid the mister

[Bronk]

there are no tracers in the pictures !!!

Hmm

Tracer?

[Anaxogoras]

I doubt Humble or Widewing rely on F3 to make the A20 dance.

Last evening (Friday), I was flying an A-20 with 50% fuel southwest of A27 on the NDisles map....And yes, when flying a bomber I do use F3 view (can't see behind).

http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Gofbat.ahf

[Chalenge]

Tracer

[WWhiskey]

no tracers here about one frame diff in film from that to this

the angle off the light you are pointing does not come from the cv as well and it looks to be a fire flare but it could be plane firing at me , but i think i still have the film if you really want to argue the point, also the guns in the pic are not even pointed at me, at high alt this is the way they would be   at low alt they would be aimed, kinda like when you see a tank at a long distance, it looks to be pointed away ye the rounds come at you

[Bronk]

2nd picture just before the top turret. What is that?

[shreck]

no dive bombing in these pics! just a good hit from about 10,000 feet
hard turn right after pickle to make myself a smaller target, for ack
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Why hard right turn to for smaller target,  for ack ?  and your view looks about 3K after pull out "zoomed in"     just saying 

[WWhiskey]

2nd picture just before the top turret. What is that?

not all that sure but it is not there 1/30th of a second before and there is no other ack firing, you can not get that close to a cv at anything less than 7000 feet without ack everywere, if it is ack then it could be a manned ack, but his aim was way off!

[moot]

But could they not do as well without it?  I've screwed around with the A20 and don't need six-oc view except to quickly look behind without having auto-level interrupt like it does if I jump in the gunner position.


BTW whatever happened to the bottom gunner position?  Didn't someone send the pictures of the real ones that were all Superfly needed to model it?

[shreck]

Now that's what I'm talkin about    nice find Anax

[WWhiskey]

Why hard right turn to for smaller target,  for ack ?  and your view looks about 3K after pull out "zoomed in"     just saying 

real good camera trick, in film viewer i set it up with zoom on the cv then backed the camera out of the plane, you can get pics the make ranges appear really close, for the effect
 the hard turn was to make the plane as small as i could so that a gunner, thru the smoke, might not see or be able to hit it

[Ratpack1]

now this is the 13th time this week for this topic. Maybe more

[WWhiskey]

two pics from diff angles to show the distance effect
 first one looks about  100 or so the second looks atleast 600,
 same shot tho